KK preflop facing 4 bet

[SuuPRlim]

i often win with Kings.

[rfgqqabc]

i often win with Kings.

thin?

[parker]

i often win with Kings.

luckbox....

[Gemini Kings]

  At the moment I seem to be on the wrong side of variance when playing KK which is probably good news since this should mean that the good times are about to come!

I can sympathise completely, I have an awfull record with KK which has recently got worse. I have won 2 out of the last 10 with KK and I never slow play them. But like you I await the variance pendulum to swing the other way.
I thought it had last week when during a £500 live tournament I pushed all in on a flop of 3,4,7 and was snapped by 5,6 for the straight. I got runner runner 7's for the house.
At last I won with KK............ had them twice since and lost both.
They still look good pre flop though.

[JK]

flat or 5bai, i've experimented with the 5b click it back, can be good in some tiny % of situs where dynamics are perfect, but this is not one of those.

Wiiiiiii this.

Alot of these spots are CO not wanting to give up. Depends alot on stats etc. If he's 4balling fairly often, I like tank flatting. If hes got no/ridic small 4b%, then just shoving. Basically assess wether hes 4b'ing for value or as a steal, jam it in his eyeball or let him spazzzzz

[WotRTheChances]

Jamming like 80-90% here, flat sometimes, obv never folding ever ever ever. Slightly villain dependant, dynamics, game-flow etc and just to balance my range (but generally i'd flat BTN vs CO rather than BB vs CO as i'm hardly ever flatting a non-massive hand in this spot).

[polaroid83]

In 6 max I'm always getting it in with kings. Probably 5bet to 130-140 as poor players will still get it in with 1010 jj qq ak. Had this been full ring I'm probably min clicking it back and then folding to a shove. But that's a different question.

[rfgqqabc]

In 6 max I'm always getting it in with kings. Probably 5bet to 130-140 as poor players will still get it in with 1010 jj qq ak. Had this been full ring I'm probably min clicking it back and then folding to a shove. But that's a different question.

[polaroid83]

Thought I'd get a random comment like that. Just my opinion .

[rfgqqabc]

Thought I'd get a random comment like that. Just my opinion .

I wanted to check you were serious before i wrote up a post describing just how bad min 5b folding would be with kings...

[parker]

Thought I'd get a random comment like that. Just my opinion .

I wanted to check you were serious before i wrote up a post describing just how bad min 5b folding would be with kings...

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[Donk23]

In a vacuum a 5bet shove is the standard line IMO, not taking account the bigger picture or circumstances such as game flow, table dynamics, balancing ranges and the dynamic between yourself and the villain.

i'm interested in the difference in profitability as a percentage in terms of  balancing your range, extracting maximum value through playing a strong holding OOP with 100BB effective stacks as opposed to the standard line in this spot