Another interesting ruling from WSOP

[jackinbeat]

The second offence is definitely a penalty as he has exposed his cards with a player to act. Not only would he get a penalty for this offence, I would be having a word in his shell about his over enthusiasm. In both cases if he had waited for the dealer he wouldn't be in this situation. I would be making sure that I have explained clearly that his over enthusiasm may cost him his tournament life if it is done again.

But late imho, I'd have given him a few hands away from the table after he mucked and then tried to retrieve his cards from the muck. Doesn't have to be a round penalty, a quiet word with the player, especially when the stakes are so high can prevent similar events occurring. I actually think the first infraction was worse in that he benefited from his own stupidity. The second one, well at least the player not at fault got the benefit from that.

[I KNOW IT]

The second offence is definitely a penalty as he has exposed his cards with a player to act. Not only would he get a penalty for this offence, I would be having a word in his shell about his over enthusiasm. In both cases if he had waited for the dealer he wouldn't be in this situation. I would be making sure that I have explained clearly that his over enthusiasm may cost him his tournament life if it is done again.

But late imho, I'd have given him a few hands away from the table after he mucked and then tried to retrieve his cards from the muck. Doesn't have to be a round penalty, a quiet word with the player, especially when the stakes are so high can prevent similar events occurring. I actually think the first infraction was worse in that he benefited from his own stupidity. The second one, well at least the player not at fault got the benefit from that.

I would almost be certain the floor would have spoke to him after he mucked his cards prematurely.

Also, some might think him paying 60,000 without any cards acted as a penalty in itself.

[jackinbeat]

The second offence is definitely a penalty as he has exposed his cards with a player to act. Not only would he get a penalty for this offence, I would be having a word in his shell about his over enthusiasm. In both cases if he had waited for the dealer he wouldn't be in this situation. I would be making sure that I have explained clearly that his over enthusiasm may cost him his tournament life if it is done again.

But late imho, I'd have given him a few hands away from the table after he mucked and then tried to retrieve his cards from the muck. Doesn't have to be a round penalty, a quiet word with the player, especially when the stakes are so high can prevent similar events occurring. I actually think the first infraction was worse in that he benefited from his own stupidity. The second one, well at least the player not at fault got the benefit from that.

I would almost be certain the floor would have spoke to him after he mucked his cards prematurely.

Also, some might think him paying 60,000 without any cards acted as a penalty in itself.

I doubt the French lass with KK did.

[Cf]

There you go. Penalty for the 2nd offence. Seems fair enough to me. Amy more offences increase the penalty or dq if appropriate.

Fair enough, they got their eventually. Did you have to bring my ex Amy into this though...

Gah. Silly phone!

[OverTheBorder]

Notice the guy who got saved here is 2nd in chips and a November 9 member! WOW talk about a lucky break! she busts 10th!

[jackinbeat]

Notice the guy who got saved here is 2nd in chips and a November 9 member! WOW talk about a lucky break! she busts 10th!

There is no karma in poker..







hmmm just noticed that's my 300th post, not sure how I feel about that.

[OverTheBorder]

Notice the guy who got saved here is 2nd in chips and a November 9 member! WOW talk about a lucky break! she busts 10th!

There is no karma in poker..







hmmm just noticed that's my 300th post, not sure how I feel about that.

10%?

[NigDawG]

Notice the guy who got saved here is 2nd in chips and a November 9 member! WOW talk about a lucky break! she busts 10th!

he also busted her in 10th

[jackinbeat]

Notice the guy who got saved here is 2nd in chips and a November 9 member! WOW talk about a lucky break! she busts 10th!

he also busted her in 10th

I fear for his safety, do not mess with French Women, painful experience has told me.

[smashedagain]

Wow. Love these type of stories

[scottbrown]

Wow. Love these type of stories

Still a better story than Twilight.

[smashedagain]

Wow. Love these type of stories

Still a better story than Twilight.

[david3103]

Wow. Love these type of stories

Still a better story than Twilight.

or 50 shades of grey

[Gemini Kings]

Common sense and fairness should be considerations in all rulings and under the circs described I think both were applied.

I don't see how you can have cast iron responses to all situations as there are usually different factors at play.

Ie sometimes a player announces all in but does not push any chips forward and can be covering their cards with their hand. It can be very easy for a player around the table not to have heard the verbal declaration and thinks he is opening the pot himself. I use this as an example of why rules have to be flexible and applied taking into account all factors, fairness and the spirit of the game etc.