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« Reply #135 on: May 02, 2013, 05:44:32 AM »

Jim Davidson is scum.

But anyway, the anonymity of the accused is a contentious issue. I've yet to hear a convincing argument against keeping the accused's name secret until found guilty.

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/exclusive-three-in-four-believe-those-accused-of-sexual-assaults-should-be-granted-anonymity-8599788.html

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« Reply #136 on: May 02, 2013, 07:20:35 AM »

Jim Davidson is scum.

But anyway, the anonymity of the accused is a contentious issue. I've yet to hear a convincing argument against keeping the accused's name secret until found guilty.

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/exclusive-three-in-four-believe-those-accused-of-sexual-assaults-should-be-granted-anonymity-8599788.html


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« Reply #137 on: May 02, 2013, 10:11:46 AM »

Kinboshi - from Davidson's piece, it doesn't seem it is the Police who are instigating these cases, more accusations from the supposed victims.  Which brings us back to why it has taken 46 years.

I see they have actually charged Roache.  I'm genuinely intrigued as to what evidence they have that the CPS thinks has a chance of winning.  They won't have 46 year old DNA, so what can it be above her word against his (in which case obviously he will win due to the 46 year issue)?
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« Reply #138 on: May 02, 2013, 10:16:09 AM »

They must think they have a good chance of securing a conviction, so will be interesting to see the prosecution case when it comes out.
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« Reply #139 on: May 02, 2013, 10:30:16 AM »

The broadcaster Stuart Hall has pleaded guilty to 14 sex offences
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« Reply #140 on: May 02, 2013, 10:34:23 AM »

Yes indeed - just read that. 
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« Reply #141 on: May 02, 2013, 10:37:23 AM »

The broadcaster Stuart Hall has pleaded guilty to 14 sex offences



Does sound like they might have evidence in these cases?
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« Reply #142 on: May 02, 2013, 10:40:30 AM »

Kinboshi - from Davidson's piece...


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« Reply #143 on: May 02, 2013, 10:42:29 AM »

The broadcaster Stuart Hall has pleaded guilty to 14 sex offences



Does sound like they might have evidence in these cases?

Probably/hopefully more to do with remorse
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« Reply #144 on: May 02, 2013, 10:43:52 AM »

The broadcaster Stuart Hall has pleaded guilty to 14 sex offences



Does sound like they might have evidence in these cases?

Probably/hopefully more to do with remorse

Remorse?  Unlikely.  He was publicly and fiercely denying all up to now.
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« Reply #145 on: May 02, 2013, 10:44:17 AM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22379286

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Broadcaster Stuart Hall has admitted 14 charges of indecently assaulting girls as young as nine years old.

The 83-year-old from Wilmslow, Cheshire pleaded guilty at Preston Crown Court to the offences, involving 13 victims, which occurred between 1967 and 1985.

A further three charges of indecent assault and one of rape have been left to lie on the court file.

Outside the court earlier Hall's lawyer said he wished to apologise to his victims.

He added: "He is not a man easily moved to self pity but he is all too aware that his disgrace is complete."

Hall admitted the offences last month but they could not be revealed due to reporting restrictions.
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« Reply #146 on: May 02, 2013, 10:47:00 AM »

The broadcaster Stuart Hall has pleaded guilty to 14 sex offences



Does sound like they might have evidence in these cases?

Probably/hopefully more to do with remorse

Remorse?  Unlikely.  He was publicly and fiercely denying all up to now.

Doesn't necessarily mean that he wasn't remorseful.
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« Reply #147 on: May 02, 2013, 10:47:28 AM »

The broadcaster Stuart Hall has pleaded guilty to 14 sex offences



Does sound like they might have evidence in these cases?

Probably/hopefully more to do with remorse

Remorse?  Unlikely.  He was publicly and fiercely denying all up to now.

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Hall has strenuously denied any wrongdoing in previous public statements.

He said he might have considered suicide had it not been for his family and described the accusations as "pernicious, callous, cruel and, above all, spurious" as he vowed to clear his name and restore his reputation.

Yet, according to the latest report, he'd confessed a month ago, but this couldn't be reported for legal reasons.

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« Reply #148 on: May 02, 2013, 10:48:42 AM »

The broadcaster Stuart Hall has pleaded guilty to 14 sex offences



Does sound like they might have evidence in these cases?

Probably/hopefully more to do with remorse

Remorse?  Unlikely.  He was publicly and fiercely denying all up to now.

Doesn't necessarily mean that he wasn't remorseful.

Bit bloody late to be remorseful.  To think he was considered something of a national treasure to many, whilst in reality he'd been sexually assaulting children as young as 9.

Vile man.
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« Reply #149 on: May 02, 2013, 10:55:58 AM »

I actually have to admit to being truly shocked at Hall's admission... im not sure if its because of fond, youthful memories of his unique chuckling on its a knockout... but...

Just shake my head... what is wrong with this world FFS
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