GPS Sheffield with Paul Jackson

[smashedagain]

Hey Aaron read a tweet or Facebook from you saying something like " the other players don't think I can hear them slagging my play off". What was that all about.

Can you remember the kids name who was giving Paul a hard time.

[youthnkzR]

Don't think this is a snap fold. Have seen PJ 4 bet fold quite a bit in comps.

I happily go bust here with my 10-10 against PJ.

More often than not, PJ is playing back against Seat 10 here, & he'll fold if we jam.

Sometimes he will have it, & we go bust, but mostly he won't.

All-in.

Don't think he can possibly fold any two here as hes 4bet to 7500 and we only have 14k, however i agree with the logic, we've definitely got to put it in his eye as hes just getting funky vs seat 10 a lot of the time.

[kinboshi]

Hey Aaron read a tweet or Facebook from you saying something like " the other players don't think I can hear them slagging my play off". What was that all about.

Can you remember the kids name who was giving Paul a hard time.

 

[smashedagain]

Hey Aaron read a tweet or Facebook from you saying something like " the other players don't think I can hear them slagging my play off". What was that all about.

Can you remember the kids name who was giving Paul a hard time.

 

i did not think it was shit stirring Dan as it was an innocent question.

I got told of a hand  this morning where "a blonde member"   was telling the whole table his play was profitable 5 bet jamming 8 hi but could not get his head round the fact that the 4 betters range was only ever KK+. Pretty sure it was actionjacks table.

[aaron1867]

It was a quick fold from me, but the hand played out:

PJ 4bet (not see him do this at table), I fold, then the other guy 5bet, PJ fold.

As for my tweets, got fed up with a couple of others having a go, because "I got there" & slagging off lol, played so bad yesterday, so a couple of players was on wrong side of a beating.

As for PJ and the other guy, no idea who he was, but he really did not like him. He said "you not like that me professional" and started banging table l, then tapping table when another player beat him, another couple of examples, but on phone, not ideal. I got moved to the table, was very depressing!

[Nico29]

It was a quick fold from me, but the hand played out:

PJ 4bet (not see him do this at table), I fold, then the other guy 5bet, PJ fold.

As for my tweets, got fed up with a couple of others having a go, because "I got there" & slagging off lol, played so bad yesterday, so a couple of players was on wrong side of a beating.

As for PJ and the other guy, no idea who he was, but he really did not like him. He said "you not like that me professional" and started banging table l, then tapping table when another player beat him, another couple of examples, but on phone, not ideal. I got moved to the table, was very depressing!

Played against you yesterday on the first table, I was two to your right.

Thought you played some hands well but there were a few like this where you take passive lines and somewhat over complicate the simple.

Just jam pre.

[pleno1]

Noooo 3bet/call

[Nico29]

Noooo 3bet/call

Fine also of course, but like jamming as will look weaker in this particular situation with dynamic.

[pleno1]

It doesn't matter.

Name some hands that he folds to the 3b but calls the jam?

I guarantee there will be more
Combos of 4b bluffs from him

[aaron1867]

It was a quick fold from me, but the hand played out:

PJ 4bet (not see him do this at table), I fold, then the other guy 5bet, PJ fold.

As for my tweets, got fed up with a couple of others having a go, because "I got there" & slagging off lol, played so bad yesterday, so a couple of players was on wrong side of a beating.

As for PJ and the other guy, no idea who he was, but he really did not like him. He said "you not like that me professional" and started banging table l, then tapping table when another player beat him, another couple of examples, but on phone, not ideal. I got moved to the table, was very depressing!

Played against you yesterday on the first table, I was two to your right.

Thought you played some hands well but there were a few like this where you take passive lines and somewhat over complicate the simple.

Just jam pre.

I played terrible yesterday mate, never been that passive before and was chasing lots.

On the first table didn't really flat with big hands apart from AK. Where I got full double.

As for hand, yes played it bad, shove should have happened, perhaps a bit too much emphasis on PJ, when another guy in hand too?

[Nico29]

It was a quick fold from me, but the hand played out:

PJ 4bet (not see him do this at table), I fold, then the other guy 5bet, PJ fold.

As for my tweets, got fed up with a couple of others having a go, because "I got there" & slagging off lol, played so bad yesterday, so a couple of players was on wrong side of a beating.

As for PJ and the other guy, no idea who he was, but he really did not like him. He said "you not like that me professional" and started banging table l, then tapping table when another player beat him, another couple of examples, but on phone, not ideal. I got moved to the table, was very depressing!

Played against you yesterday on the first table, I was two to your right.

Thought you played some hands well but there were a few like this where you take passive lines and somewhat over complicate the simple.

Just jam pre.

I played terrible yesterday mate, never been that passive before and was chasing lots.

On the first table didn't really flat with big hands apart from AK. Where I got full double.

As for hand, yes played it bad, shove should have happened, perhaps a bit too much emphasis on PJ, when another guy in hand too?

Yep, just play it simple, we have da effective nuts, how can we get him to stack off in this great spot?

Don't think you played terrible at all bud, far too hard on yourself.

Def a few mistakes but nothing that a bit of abc poker in a few spots wouldn't solve-don't peel so much oop for example with mod hands.

Thought you played much better irl than I thought you would from reading your posts on here.

Compliment and an insult in one sentence!

[tikay]

Good post Dom.

[youthnkzR]

It doesn't matter.

Name some hands that he folds to the 3b but calls the jam?

I guarantee there will be more
Combos of 4b bluffs from him

agree, 3bet call is the way to go here

[Honeybadger]

Noooo 3bet/call

agree, 3bet call is the way to go here

I disagree with this. 3bet jam is better than 3bet/call.

The problem with 3bet/calling with TT in this spot is that we do not actually want villain to 4bet jam as a bluff!

A chunk of Paul Jackson's 4bet bluffing range is racing with us (e.g. QJ), and we obviously prefer him to fold such hands. In fact, we do even want to induce a jam from hands with ~30% equity such as A5s (i.e. hands with just one overcard). Our chip EV of inducing a jam from a hand with 30% equity is +2310, compared to our chip EV of forcing such a hand to fold which is +2400.

For 3bet/call to dominate 3bet jam we have to expect villain to be 4bet bluffing with enough small pairs or 98s type hands to make up for the times he jams hands we'd prefer him to fold like QJ or A5s.

[Boba Fett]

I dunno how often Jackson 4bet bluffs V a 3bet from a 22bb stack, Im not sure he ships wide enough for value either to make 3b/call a good option.  Other people will know his game much better than me but I feel like he is pretty aware of stacksizes normally and is way way way more likely to 4b bluff when you're much deeper, if you 3b and he 4b's he has to call it off v a shove and I think he knows that.

For that reason I actually dont mind the flat, I agree with Pleno in that your stack is too big to just shove and I dont think his calling range v a shove differs too much from his 4b/call range.