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« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2012, 12:26:19 AM »

I assume this is true and not social media crap. If so, brave lady



How does anyone know what was said in a conversation between a teacher and gunman, who both died shortly afterwards?
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« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2012, 12:54:15 AM »

Kids in the cupboard told the police?
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« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2012, 03:16:07 AM »

This might be the most heartbreaking thing I've ever seen:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/connecticut-shooting-tragedy-robbie-parker-17986590
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« Reply #63 on: December 16, 2012, 01:36:42 PM »

I just don't see getting the genie back in the bottle in the USA. One estimate I read had it at 270 million guns in private ownership in the USA. How do you get them back?

Buy them back? With what?
Ban them and demand they are handed back? Think you'd have civil war right there.

It's easy to say ban them in a country where legislation for our own good (arguably) is accepted without much of a protest, that's our culture. It's a lot different where a significant amount believe that an armed population means protection against dictatorship in Government - and that group are vehemently against the current president.

There needs to somehow be a resetting of the American relationship with guns. To regard them as a tool, not the 'equaliser'. The 'strap on your guns & go to town to fix the problems' attitude needs to be changed.
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« Reply #64 on: December 16, 2012, 01:56:52 PM »

Gun control would be difficult now. It would take generations to achieve. But that's no reason not to do it.

When these tragedies occur the shooter often has multiple weapons on him. Restricting their availability would eventually make these incidents less likely and reduce the number of fatalities when they do occur.

But before gun control can be implemented Americans need to change their selfish attitudes on this subject.

The pro gun lobby are all about 'my right to own a gun (or 6)'  in other words me, me, me.

What about the rights of those poor children and the brave teachers who die protecting them!

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« Reply #65 on: December 16, 2012, 01:58:54 PM »


It's easy to say ban them in a country where legislation for our own good (arguably) is accepted without much of a protest, that's our culture. It's a lot different where a significant amount believe that an armed population means protection against dictatorship in Government - and that group are vehemently against the current president.


barely any americans can read their own constitution. as far as they are concerned the 2nd amendment is 5 words, 'the right to bear arms'...... never mind what the rest of the line says, and god forbid they consider when it was written and why.
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« Reply #66 on: December 16, 2012, 02:02:46 PM »


Gun control would be difficult now. It would take generations to achieve. But that's no reason not to do it.

When these tragedies occur the shooter often has multiple weapons on him. Restricting their availability would eventually make these incidents less likely and reduce the number of fatalities when they do occur.

But before gun control can be implemented Americans need to change their selfish attitudes on this subject.

Yeah but America is a selfish country end of......
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« Reply #67 on: December 16, 2012, 02:04:29 PM »

oh yeh I know I detest the bulk of them.


it's just a shame they have so much influence on the rest of the world.


what's v interesting is I had no clue about the level of gun ownership in Switzerland (and the other place in the article I read that I now cant remember) that surprised me.
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« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2012, 02:11:01 PM »

Saw an interesting piece on the news about the gunman.

In the UK he would almost certainly bee in hospital, his problems were so sever, in America, with no NHS, he was left to his own devices.
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« Reply #69 on: December 16, 2012, 02:14:00 PM »

land of the free bitches.

no online poker but assault rifles galore.
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« Reply #70 on: December 16, 2012, 02:21:39 PM »

Saw an interesting piece on the news about the gunman.

In the UK he would almost certainly bee in hospital, his problems were so sever, in America, with no NHS, he was left to his own devices.

Link please mate?
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« Reply #71 on: December 16, 2012, 02:28:52 PM »

Saw an interesting piece on the news about the gunman.

In the UK he would almost certainly bee in hospital, his problems were so sever, in America, with no NHS, he was left to his own devices.

Link please mate?

It was on BBC News 24.

You'll have to sit and watch it for a couple of hours, everything is repeated ad infinitum!
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« Reply #72 on: December 16, 2012, 05:44:36 PM »

I think in a country where people create videos titled "5 Military Surplus Rifles everyone should own..." without comic intent, gun control will always be an uphill task

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzEA0lNZCrY
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« Reply #73 on: December 16, 2012, 06:30:45 PM »

I think in a country where people create videos titled "5 Military Surplus Rifles everyone should own..." without comic intent, gun control will always be an uphill task

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzEA0lNZCrY

This.

I watched a video from a US news website reporting on the story this morning and the 'your ad will close in 5 seconds' type advert before the video was for a weekend sale on ammunition at a gun warehouse.
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« Reply #74 on: December 16, 2012, 06:36:24 PM »

I think in a country where people create videos titled "5 Military Surplus Rifles everyone should own..." without comic intent, gun control will always be an uphill task

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzEA0lNZCrY
Only 1 of those rifles is not available to a license holder in the U.K.
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