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« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2012, 01:53:32 PM » |
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Well as stated earlier i dont think i played this hand very well at all but here comes the reason i posted this hand. So we have hit our flush. With 78 left and facing a bet and call in front of us obv the ideal situation is that PA is betting with the bare ace and rotund has 2 pr or set. I decided to just flat call, with only 38 behind decided to see if it pairs the river and no point pushing PA out if he only has the bare ace. River card comes down  so now thats 4 spades on board and we have 3 spades in our hand. PA now bets out the pot 160 and rotund quickly calls. So the decision is now on us what do we do with our remaining 38. 236 in the middle. Can rotund have a flush as well? straight flush is possible for PA now but rotund obv raises if he has it. Snap for me. No point in calling the turn and folding now with that river and the ensuing action. Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb. |
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« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2012, 03:26:45 PM » |
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^^^^^^^^^^
I agree.
I wish more people would post live PLO hands.
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Ah! The element of surprise
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« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2012, 03:34:12 PM » |
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can we be winning now, how often are we winning?
what can rotund have? is he calling with a set hoping PA has the bare ace even with me being so short and can win a decent side pot.
Can rotund have a flush as well increasing our chances of having the best hand.
i agree we havent played the hand well but with our remaining stack we are never folding, would these be still the same case with 60,80 or 100 behind?
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Mantis - I would like to thank 77dave for his more realistic take on things.
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« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2012, 03:39:53 PM » |
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Help an ice cream out: if you call, what are you beating?
Looks like calling is just another mistake to me.
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« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2012, 03:45:52 PM » |
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Help an ice cream out: if you call, what are you beating?
Looks like calling is just another mistake to me.
Well 2 people are in the pot in front of us and we have the 2nd nuts so we must 100% be beating rotund. The pot is now big enough that PA will be potting the river here with the bare ace sometimes and for our remaining stack we will be right often enough that we must make this call. After all we know what we have and we know that rotund doesnt believe PA has it. We dont disbelieve PA from having the nuts here but we know sometimes he will be at it. In 4/5/6 omaha people bluff with bare ace and blockers more than in normal 4 card omaha. |
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Mantis - I would like to thank 77dave for his more realistic take on things.
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« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2012, 03:48:33 PM » |
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OK. Thanks
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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2012, 04:07:21 PM » |
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Help an ice cream out: if you call, what are you beating?
Looks like calling is just another mistake to me.
Well 2 people are in the pot in front of us and we have the 2nd nuts so we must 100% be beating rotund. The pot is now big enough that PA will be potting the river here with the bare ace sometimes and for our remaining stack we will be right often enough that we must make this call. After all we know what we have and we know that rotund doesnt believe PA has it. We dont disbelieve PA from having the nuts here but we know sometimes he will be at it. In 4/5/6 omaha people bluff with bare ace and blockers more than in normal 4 card omaha. Calling the river here is 100% a mistake imo, PA has to have it a LOT of the time - sure he'll be bluffing once every so often but it's w/e youre getting 8/1 i'd just flick the £35 in a be fully expecting to reload for the next hand, it can never be that bad calling. Like I said the mistake was the flop call, and that mistake has been compounded throughout the hand and put you in spots to make more (albeit smaller) mistakes, if you're deeper then this is a great spot to raise the flop, if you get three-bet you have no real hand so can merrily fold, your spade draw/running striaght draws and overpair gives you SOME equity and you might get naked NFD to call one/fold turn or you MIGHT even get a hand like naked bottom set to fold, or be able to bluff 2p off on scary turn cards etc but it's NOT a spot to ever be calling. |
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« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2012, 04:07:32 PM » |
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how would you describe your style of play in the cash games
Fucking amazing. I heard medium-weak. <3 lil dave fking hilarious |
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« Reply #38 on: December 25, 2012, 12:58:50 PM » |
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Isn't it about time for the reveal Jim?
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« Reply #39 on: December 25, 2012, 01:02:25 PM » |
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Sorry I always forget this part. PA had   for the nuts. We just had 2nd 3rd and 4th nuts. God only knows what rotund had. I found out later that they had a history and rotund just wanted to bust PA, both are millionaires. |
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« Reply #40 on: December 25, 2012, 01:09:01 PM » |
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I assume that MM knows who "PA" is?
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« Reply #41 on: December 25, 2012, 01:38:53 PM » |
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I assume that MM knows who "PA" is?
If it's not Patrick Antonius, no. |
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« Reply #42 on: December 25, 2012, 01:42:30 PM » |
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I assume that MM knows who "PA" is?
If it's not Patrick Antonius, no. Paul Anka? He seems to have his own style. (This could run and run...) |
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« Reply #43 on: December 25, 2012, 01:45:25 PM » |
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I assume that MM knows who "PA" is?
If it's not Patrick Antonius, no. Paul Anka? He seems to have his own style. (This could run and run...) He is a former LNP original. |
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Mantis - I would like to thank 77dave for his more realistic take on things.
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« Reply #44 on: December 25, 2012, 01:45:49 PM » |
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Oh actually Tal has just jogged my memory and I think I do know now.
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