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« on: January 18, 2006, 04:12:00 PM »

Can anyone recommend any good poker player biographies? I have only read two. Amarillo Slim’s and Stuey’s. I thoroughly enjoyed these books and I would recommend them to everyone. Does anyone know of any other good ones?
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2006, 04:28:59 PM »

i have read the stuey book(Great read) i have also been try to get his film, High Roller , but cant get it in the UK.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2006, 04:39:29 PM »

I have a copy of that. It's pretty good but not great. Not as good as the book. If you would like me to send it to you pm me.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2006, 05:19:30 PM »

The Professor, The Banker and the Suicide King is a great read.  It isn't a specific biography of one player but has fantastic stories about a number of top pros, including Jennifer Harman, Ted Forrest (particularly good reading), Howard Lederer and Doyle Brunson.  There's a review of it in on the main Blonde page.

The most interesting bio I've read outside of the two books you've listed is Doyle Brunson's, which appears at the start of both Super System and Super System 2 (updated, obviously).  There is a book about him called 'Poker Wisdom of a Champion' which I believe expands on this but its not one I've yet read.

Many books contain titbits of biography alongside teaching material (e.g. Greenstein, Cloutier, etc).  However, I can't think of too many books which are specific bios of one player that I'd recommend.  I think books such as Big Deal, The Biggest Game in Town, and Positively Fifth Street, which focus on particular events/periods of time rather than a specific player, are more likely to be better reading.

Personally I doubt any bio will be better reading than Slim's book (the prop bet stories were fantastic).  I'm just glad I read it before his child molesting conviction hit the news.

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PS: Heidi has lent me a bio of Steve Wynn which she says is a great read.  Unfortunately I've not got round to opening it yet!
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2006, 06:14:10 PM »

Where did you get your copy of High Roller from, HarlemShuffle. I have tried at Virgin, HMV, FOPP( think thats what its called), Amazon, and about a million others. I even tried under its other title "Stuey" but wasn't successful.
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2006, 10:13:53 AM »

Sheriff, thanks for the recommendations. I’ve read some of the books you mentioned but not  The Professor, The Banker and Suicide King, so I’ll give that a go. I fancy a break from the teaching material.

I agree about Slim’s book. Some excellent stories in there. I haven’t heard about the child molesting conviction though. When did that hit the news???

Sark79, to be honest I can’t remember where I got my copy of High Roller from. I imported it from USA when it first came out. It didn’t work on my DVD player so I had to rip it and then play it. If you want me to send it to you to then pm me your details.

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2006, 11:36:59 AM »

I agree about Slim’s book. Some excellent stories in there. I haven’t heard about the child molesting conviction though. When did that hit the news???

Its probably a couple of years old now.

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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2006, 12:36:39 PM »

'Poker Wisdom of a Champion'

I have that book and found it to be a most enjoyable read. It's more a collection of stories from his life than a biography though
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2006, 01:01:24 PM »

Doyle Brunson's ' Poker Wisdom of a Champion' is a collection of anecdotes, not a autobiography as such. The stories range from the amusing to the tragic, with downright weird thrown in along the way. Each anecdote is between two and four pages long, making this an ideal 'bathroom book' to dip into and put down as you wish.

It's entertaining and contains some advice of a pretty general nature almost as a by-product of telling the stories. Worth a read but not essential reading, if that makes sense.

One book not mentioned yet in this thread is Herbert Yardley's 1957 classic, 'The Education of a Poker Player'. This short (less than 150 pages) book contains a mixture of partial autobiography and basic education material for 5 card draw, 5 card stud, 7 card stud and 7 card stud hi-lo, together with some variations on these games. Next time you have a home game, you can floor the opposition by calling for a game of 'Spit in the Ocean' or 'Doctor Pepper'!

As far as I can tell this material is sound, but outdated in so far as the 5 card games are not played much these days and the 7 card material is, unsurprisingly, superceded by the much more detailed specialist information available today, such as the Sklansky / Malmuth/ Zee books.

The biographical information is in two sections and deals firstly with the author as a teenager, growing up around a dodgy backroom card game. Then it moves on several decades to the author's time as an undercover codebreaker working in China for the Chinese government at the request of the U. S. Department of State. These are wonderful stories with some fascinating characters and would be worth reading even if you had no interest on poker at all.

The book has been reprinted several times since Yardley's death in 1960 (?) which says it all, really. On the 12 barblues scale of merit this book gets the full guitar solo, encore and standing ovation.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2006, 01:33:51 PM »

can someone tell me the story over amarillo slim getting arrested over child molesting as id never heard about it and cant find any details on the web
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2006, 01:50:32 PM »

I hadn't heard about that either but I just found this on the net:

Taken from the Las Vegas Review Journal
Tuesday, August 12, 2003
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal
COLUMN: John L. Smith

Indictment might silence bluster of famed hustler `Amarillo Slim'
It's hard to find a name more synonymous with the rise of poker than "Amarillo Slim."
With his irresistible nickname, Texas drawl and country wit, he became modern poker's first television celebrity. He defined the cowboy persona of the top players of his generation before most of the colorful rounders were replaced by math wizards and MIT grads.
Slim was no cowboy, of course. The hat and awe-shucksisms were props. He was closer to Titanic Thompson than Ty Murray.

Slim was a hustler and a scuffler with a patter that wouldn't quit and an uncommon ability to stretch the truth. He could spot a mark at a mile and rope players the way real wranglers take down steers.

As his stories go, he once whipped Minnesota Fats in a game of pocket billiards using a broomstick. He beat fellow hustler Bobby Riggs in a game of ping pong using an iron skillet. He nicked Evel Knievel and Willie Nelson and everyone else he came in contact with, but excluding the Internal Revenue Service, everyone seemed to forgive Slim his transgressions. The hustle was, after all, part of his nature.

Although he was often more bluster than black chips, he was capable of pulling a big scalp, as illustrated by the time he took Hustler publisher Larry Flynt for $2 million.

To give you an idea of the complexity of the character in question, he is also a man who rubbed elbows with the likes of Colombian drug lord Pablo Escobar. A hayseed, he wasn't.

Although he won the 1972 World Series of Poker and was inducted into the game's Hall of Fame in 1992, Amarillo Slim was rarely the best player in a top tournament. But he always had the best story line. And no one from the green felt was more comfortable in the media spotlight.

For the record, Amarillo Slim's real name is Thomas Austin Preston Jr.
I mention it because you'll be hearing more of his given name and less of his colorful nickname in the days to come as his creepy courtroom drama plays out in Texas, where he has been indicted on three charges of indecency with a 12-year-old child.

According to published reports, Preston made an admission of the crime to an Amarillo prosecutor. The indictment alleges he inappropriately touched the child, which one local source says was a family member, Jan. 1, March 13 and March 14.

Those events remained secret until the indictment was unsealed Friday in Amarillo.
Preston's entertaining, cleaned-up autobiography with Greg Dinkins, "Amarillo Slim in a World of Fat People," was published in May by HarperCollins to some good reviews. After a few years in the celebrity shadows, he appeared headed for center stage one more time.

His last public appearance in Las Vegas was at May's World Series of Poker at Binion's Horseshoe. Those who spoke with him saw he was depressed and heard him complain of getting a divorce.

At a time he should have been sky-high, Slim couldn't keep up the con. Now everyone knows why.
Soon after Preston flopped in the World Series, he offended a Denver radio audience with an anti-Semitic remark that reportedly crippled his book and movie deal.

Now he holds a dead man's hand.

It would have been better for him if he'd been accused of murder. In his world, a killing can make a reputation.
Among old-style gamblers, a bank robbery conviction was another sign of a man of experience. As Willie Sutton once said, "That's where the money is." And it's hard for a fellow whose life is dedicated to taking a shot at a pot of money to be too judgmental of a man who upped the ante. Seems almost noble when you come to think of it.
A generation ago, convictions for liquor running, bribing politicians and corrupting union bosses were considered more marks of authenticity than scarlet letters. Senate subcommittees and breathless investigative reporters might take exception, but they amounted to little more than background noise in the worlds of the real players.


But, as they say, there are crimes and then there are crimes. And even in a society turned upside down, kiddie molestation charges make you want to vomit.

Let's see you try to spin this one, Slim.
John L. Smith's column appears Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday. E-mail him at Smith@reviewjournal.com or call 383-0295.
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