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« Reply #3645 on: July 31, 2015, 04:23:40 PM »

Any tips for this evening at Newmarket?
I'm heading there this evening and might have a few punts 😜
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« Reply #3646 on: July 31, 2015, 06:39:22 PM »

...and when you're done with HQ, any thoughts on the card at t'Doncaster tomorrow much appreciated.
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« Reply #3647 on: July 31, 2015, 07:37:59 PM »

...and when you're done with HQ, any thoughts on the card at t'Doncaster tomorrow much appreciated.

I usually go for horses carrying 8st 6lbs in the handicaps there.

If there are two or more I would suggest the one in red silks.

Hope you win plenty.
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« Reply #3648 on: August 01, 2015, 05:49:21 PM »

Great jockey Richard Hughes. Him and Ryan Moore way clear of the others the last few years imo.

Sure he'll crush as a trainer too.
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« Reply #3649 on: August 01, 2015, 05:55:32 PM »

Went down to the Tatts a couple of races ago. Seven runner race.

How can one bookie be pricing a horse at 15/2 that everyone else is 12/1? Must be the one without a laptop, who had missed the 14.5 on betfair!! Ink. Red.

Anyway, enough frivolity. Last race magic called for. Grumpy Angel, if you please.
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« Reply #3650 on: August 01, 2015, 06:01:10 PM »

That went well...

Stick to Strictly Come Dancing and neffle...
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« Reply #3651 on: August 03, 2015, 12:33:47 PM »

4.45 Ripon In Pursuit 11/2 Boyles 5/1 general.  Thought this was worth a look, mainly due to some very strong sire stats coupled with a yard in form. Lol sample size and all that, but sire's offspring stats as 2/3yo are 4 wins from 4 runs when stepped up to 12f. Should be fine on ground again based on sire stats.
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« Reply #3652 on: August 03, 2015, 01:23:05 PM »

4.45 Ripon In Pursuit 11/2 Boyles 5/1 general.  Thought this was worth a look, mainly due to some very strong sire stats coupled with a yard in form. Lol sample size and all that, but sire's offspring stats as 2/3yo are 4 wins from 4 runs when stepped up to 12f. Should be fine on ground again based on sire stats.

Where are you getting your stats from?  I thought it was interesting and just clicked down the list of Mafki's progency on teh sportinglife website to see if the other offspring's form went 84 or 11 before stepping up.

First one I found that had raced over 12 furlongs was this one

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/profiles/horse/845804/quest-for-wonder

This filly has won 3/7, but lost both times (2/3 and 3/4) it has gone 12f and above.  Obv lol sample size too, but if you are relying on the stat for this bet, it seems it isn't as stong as you thought.  It may well still be strong stat though. 

Obviously the race isn't that great and In Pursuit was staying on last time, so could easily win.

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« Reply #3653 on: August 03, 2015, 03:41:42 PM »

These are the stats I took from Flatstats for runs on turf, Quest For Wonder was one of the winners at Brighton.

2015-05-03   Salisbury   Mdn       S   3yo   E(5)   12.0f   GdFm   8   Fabricate           M L W Bell   P Cosgrave   1   2.5L   15-8f   2   74.4
2015-05-11   Doncaster           H   3yo   E(5)   12.0f   GdSft   11   Magic Circle(IRE)   R M Beckett   R Kingscote   1   1.5L   3-1f   9   62.5
2015-05-23   Haydock           H   3yo   C(3)   12.0f   GdSft   7   Fabricate           M L W Bell   A Kirby   1   1.8L   100-30   6   63.6
2015-05-29   Brighton           H   3yo   E(5)   12.0f   Soft   4   Quest For WonderJ Tate   Jim Crowley   1   11.0L   15-8   2   74.0


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« Reply #3654 on: August 03, 2015, 03:58:21 PM »


Quest for wonder did run over 12f on AW before its turf run, but the other 3 did win on first run over 12f.  Flatstats is pretty accurate if you ask the correct questions, I was impressed that they had taken non runners into account with their draw stats, so draw 8 actually means 8 from the inside.
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« Reply #3655 on: August 05, 2015, 08:50:20 AM »

Does anyone know what time the firms will price up the maidens for Thursday
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« Reply #3656 on: August 05, 2015, 04:36:06 PM »

Had a rule 4 deduction on a race with PP but I have bet on the same race at the same time with Betfair, Bet365 and Betvictor and not had one.

Why would this be?

Is this ok or should I complain?
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« Reply #3657 on: August 05, 2015, 07:09:44 PM »

Had a rule 4 deduction on a race with PP but I have bet on the same race at the same time with Betfair, Bet365 and Betvictor and not had one.

Why would this be?

Is this ok or should I complain?

what price was the horse?  Some firms won't deduct if it's a 5p rule 4
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« Reply #3658 on: August 05, 2015, 07:29:42 PM »

Had a rule 4 deduction on a race with PP but I have bet on the same race at the same time with Betfair, Bet365 and Betvictor and not had one.

Why would this be?

Is this ok or should I complain?

what price was the horse?  Some firms won't deduct if it's a 5p rule 4

I dont know what that means sorry.

I bet at

18/1 with Bet365
18/1 BetVictor
16/1 PP
16/1 Betfair Sportsbook.

All within 30 minutes of each other at around 10pm last night.

Two horses withdrew at 8am this morning. (I think they were both 10/1 ish)

and only PP have deducted rule 4 and it says 15%.
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« Reply #3659 on: August 05, 2015, 07:53:40 PM »

where was this tip bubble Cheesy
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