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Honeybadger
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« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2013, 02:24:44 PM »


I've never done anything like this but when I've seen it on TV I often wonder why the community cards dealt the 'first time' aren't put back in to the deck, reshuffled and then dealt again for the 2nd deal?

Extreme example but if I get AK in pre v QQ for 300xbb and we agree to 'run it twice' I want 48% equity (or whatever it is) twice....

Not for it to come AAAKK the first time and be drawing to 1 out or a miracle flush/straight the 2nd time.

Am I being stupid?




What am I missing?

48% equity the first time and then potentially as little as, what, 7/8% equity the 2nd time? That's a big difference?



What you're missing is that it works the other way too. If you lose the first run out then your equity for the second run out will likely have increased. It balances out either way, and there is no change to your overall EV.
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« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2013, 09:33:36 PM »

Ofc if we could reduce variance at no cost we should. But running it twice does have a cost on a time-charge game. We're here to gamble, aren't we? Seems ridiculous to be running it twice unless the pot is huuuuuge. You're also costing everyone else at the table time as well, which is selfish.

I expect to handle the swings better than my opponents as well, so it's in my favour to run it once only. Having said that, some people will tilt more if they run it twice and lose both, so that reason is a little reduced.

People also want to keep their hands secret before they decide as well. Seems ridiculous. It doesn't affect the equity either way and it just wastes time when one guy is drawing dead. These games take enough time already with people preferring to talk to waitresses for a minute while action is on them or dealers not making sure people know when it's their turn to act.
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« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2013, 09:35:11 PM »

AFALKHADGLHGD was severely annoyed at the almighty disgusting nits @ $5/5 Big O the other day who ran it twice for an $800 pot.
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« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2013, 09:45:15 PM »

It's fun tho
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