hand rulung

[teamonkey]

I am utg +1 with xx

Utg calls, I call, 4 further callers inc sb

Bb raises it up, utg folds and I make a show of thinking, cards visible in front of me, when the other players quickly fold and I point out I am still to act.

Floor is called who says that my handnia dead as I have gained knowledge by the others folding.

I reply that I beleive he has made the wrong decision, as does the bb, but the ruling stands and my hand is mucked

Thoughts from the more experienced types please

[redsimon]

If two or more to act after you fold I think it is dead unfortunately.

[mumblesrock]

I think your hand is live. you have not acted and have no control of other players mucking their hands, surely??

[teamonkey]

Two answers, two different thoughts

Any more?

[Rod]

If two or more to act after you fold I think it is dead unfortunately.

Pretty sure this is correct and hand is dead.

[Eso Kral]

If two or more to act after you fold I think it is dead unfortunately.

[celtic]

If two or more to act after you fold I think it is dead unfortunately.

I think this is wrong. I'm sure it was three or more. Unless it's changed? Also probably dependant on where you are playing.

[Ironside]

If two or more to act after you fold I think it is dead unfortunately.

I think this is wrong. I'm sure it was three or more. Unless it's changed? Also probably dependant on where you are playing.

makes no difference the number its one of the most stupid rules out there

action is on you you shouldnt have too break your concentration and your thinking of what your going too do
to make sure people dont start acting out of turn easy way too angle shoot

player A bets Player B is thinking Player C and D both call and know that player B's hand is dead pretty sick rule

[zerofive]

If what is described as "significant action" has taken place then yes, your hand would indeed be declared dead. The definition of significant action varies between card rooms, but in most places is defined as two actions so in this instance two folds is enough.

It's similar in nature to the string bet rule, where more angles are shot through lack of discretion than through breaking the rule itself. This is basically a dealer mistake and you're super unlucky to actually have this ruling given against you.

[WotRTheChances]

If two or more to act after you fold I think it is dead unfortunately.

Never ever  ever heard of this ruling being applied... and if so it's completely and utterly terrible. If that's in their guidlines then he's ruled 'correctly', but it's an absurd rule. Clearly the only people in the wrong are those who have folded out of turn, they should be warned and it should be on you. It's obviously bad for the bb, but no way on earth your hand should be dead. Anyone actually agree that the ruling is 'right'? Makes no sense to me at all, you can't punish a player and declare a hand dead after doing nothing wrong, surely??

[MC]

I think it's 3 people. I do hate the rule though. I remember this coming up before and have found the thread:

See here: http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=49967.0

[millidonk]

Yep pretty standard ruling unfortunately. My big bear paws used to hide my cards and as a result I had it happen to me. Just be Louie Spence and make a big deal about everything you are doing.

[CHIPPYMAN]

REALLY?

[Leatherman]

Horrible rule

Heard about this before i'd be devo'd if happened to me.

Ouch

[dik9]

Most cardrooms use the significant action as 2 actions with chips and 3 without chips

i.e.
fold fold or check check is not significant

call call, call fold or call raise OR check check check for example are significant.

(If you are dwelling and can't see out the corner of your eye that chips are going into the pot and action is on you, take your bloody sun glasses off, and if you never heard a check or all-in, take your bloody headphones off )

If you call time or it is noticed by the dealer before significant action. Then hand is still live.

There has been many times I have indicated to a player that the action is on them and players infront decide to pass/fold. If I call time and 5 people fold after I am not killing the players hand. And other players will get warning.