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Question: Would you rather your team played like Chelsea or Liverpool?  (Voting closed: May 06, 2014, 12:47:06 PM)
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« on: April 29, 2014, 12:47:06 PM »

In this article http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27202641 Andre Schurrle suggests teams are jealous of Chelsea winning.

So let's pretend we are in a parallel universe where Chelsea managed to beat Palace and Sunderland + kept their results against Liverpool and City and are now poised to win the title plus in a good position to reach the CL final.

Would you prefer your team to be like Chelsea, playing ugly, defensive football but having success or to play like Liverpool - providing attacking, attractive and thrilling football, but coming up short in the quest to win the title.
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2014, 01:01:46 PM »

I think U over play the ugly winning football element. They play a certain way in the big games and it's pretty effective. Id rather watch Liverpool no doubt but then I'd also rather beat our rivals than lose
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2014, 01:04:02 PM »

All us Geordies will be in soon voting great football and no trophies  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2014, 01:11:40 PM »

Yes, the reason people don't want Chelsea to win is because they're jealous. Can't think of any other reason why people may want Chelsea to lose.

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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2014, 01:14:10 PM »

Yes, the reason people don't want Chelsea to win is because they're jealous. Can't think of any other reason why people may want Chelsea to lose.



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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2014, 01:23:01 PM »

I have a different view to you on this, primarily about Jose.  He is a winner, he has character, presence, charm and is tactically as good as they come - and a winner.  I have a lot of love for the man.

I don't like Chelsea, mainly because Terry is a complete and utter tool and a dispicable human being.  They do play some good football at times, I  think it is a) primarily about the way he sets up for big games / big teams b) Tough when you've lost both Oscar and Hazard, have shocking options up front

In answer to your question, I just want my team to win - albeit with a preference for good football.  As a neutral, I'd much rather watch Arsenal at best, Liverpool, Barcelona or the Newcastle team of 1996 Smiley

If QPR are home to lets say, West Ham and need a point to stay up or lose by one goal, you really got an issue with parking the bus?
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2014, 01:27:42 PM »

For my team, just win. or finish 17th next season

As a neutral watching any game obviously would rather watch style, flair, goals etc etc over anythign else.

No problem with Jose, he takes away teams strengths in big games and produces results. Also fantastic value off the field, and is great news for the "product" and industry around it

 Like Jose despite disliking some of his players, and much of the modern Chelsea

lots of modern football is not black and white in views in my opinion, lots of shades of grey.
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2014, 01:35:59 PM »

Chelski obviously a classic example of this at the very top table.  As a stoke fan we have had exactly the same thing in the past 5 years under Pulis and his departure in the summer was very mixed amongst the fans whatever the media said.  Like tighty said finishing 17th in the EPL is a result for anyone outside of the top 8 every season whatever anyone else tells you.  Leicester fans would have happily finished 17th every season for the past 10 years under a manager like pulis than play good football and have a long gap from the top table.
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2014, 01:37:49 PM »

For my team, just win. or finish 17th next season

As a neutral watching any game obviously would rather watch style, flair, goals etc etc over anythign else.

No problem with Jose, he takes away teams strengths in big games and produces results. Also fantastic value off the field, and is great news for the "product" and industry around it

 Like Jose despite disliking some of his players, and much of the modern Chelsea

lots of modern football is not black and white in views in my opinion, lots of shades of grey.

All of this bar the 17th bit.

Enjoyed the days of 1-0 to the Arsenal more than the fancy dan 3 ft passes that scare the shit out of me when done in our own area tbh. Win, Win, Win. That is all.
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2014, 01:40:17 PM »

My views are pretty much the same as Claypoles.  As a Boro fan some of my favourite footballing memories were of the 1996 Newcastle team......

Joking apart, I have no real issues with Mourinho. although as a group I dislike the Chelsea team and Terry/Cole in particular it isn't really anything to do with the way they play football.  For sure I don't enjoy watching them as much as some other teams but as a football fan I could appreciate how impressive what they did on Sunday was.  

In terms of my own team I have never walked away from a ground having lost but been satisfied that we played good football and I think you would be fairly unusual as a football fan if you felt that.  I am in the small minority of football fans that will applaud an opposing goal if it is exceptional but it doesn't change how much I want my team to win.
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2014, 02:00:03 PM »

Didn't Mourinho's first Chelsea team have the record for scoring the most goals in a season before Ancelotti's Chelsea beat said record ?

Why would anyone not want a manager who builds a team to regularly beat inferior sides 4/5/6-0 then when they play teams close to there level or better than them he tactically gets it spot on an insanely high % of the time ?

The man's a football genius.
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2014, 02:10:51 PM »

When Fergie left I wanted Jose- I think if you asked most Man U fans they'd want him and if for some reason he defected to us now I'd be very pleased
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2014, 02:19:37 PM »

In any given match I'd rather my team won than that they played beautiful football but lost. Over the course of a season, I'd prefer there to be more beautiful wins than losses, and more stylish victories than defeats.

I'd much prefer to have beaten Barca twice in CL Finals playing ugly defensive football than the results we got.
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2014, 02:23:21 PM »

I love watching mourhino's teams. Tactical masterclasses... Nearly all of them.
I love his intense presence and the way he goes about each game. Genius.
Yes would rather watch a team tear another one to pieces with amazing flowing football but ultimately its about doing what is right to win.
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2014, 04:56:23 PM »

If you really love football this isn't boring. It's beautiful. Really really great manager who sets his teams up perfectly its literally like watching art for me. His inter Milan performance against Barcelona is THE best performance I have ever seen from a team in my life.

What a manager!
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