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« on: May 29, 2014, 12:39:31 AM »

6 left. i just made a huge river bluff tht got to showdown, but i won the pot and it was against the big stack.

Full Tilt Poker Game #34272439595: Turbo Hundo (267428025), Table 10 - NL Hold'em - 3000/6000 Ante 750 - 01:18:18 CET - 2014/05/29 [19:18:18 ET - 2014/05/28]
Seat 1: PATER266 (67,984)
Seat 2: Jack4339 (25,662)
Seat 5: Al Robbya (174,227)
Seat 6: DownByDaBridge (126,422)
Seat 7: Sick_Ko (80,454)
Seat 9: pads1161 (80,251)
PATER266 antes 750
Jack4339 antes 750
Al Robbya antes 750
DownByDaBridge antes 750
Sick_Ko antes 750
pads1161 antes 750
Al Robbya posts the small blind of 3,000
DownByDaBridge posts the big blind of 6,000
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [ ]
Sick_Ko folds
pads1161

r/f, jam, r, f?
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2014, 12:48:18 AM »

Jam.

Unless everyone's nitty then would r/f everyone but Jack.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2014, 12:52:03 AM »

interesting, everybody i asked said f.
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2014, 12:53:43 AM »

interesting, everybody i asked said f.

It's a jam in a 180, if you got payouts I'll run it if you want.
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2014, 05:44:41 AM »

wonder how big the river bluff is if we only hav 13.5bb now Tongue but erm depends on payout, jamming and folding are fine. Jamming can never really be too bad unless payouts are ridic.
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2014, 09:56:01 AM »

KQ feels like the easiest shove in the whole world, unless I'm missing something.

Something like: 66+,A5s+,ATo+,K9s+,KJo+,QTs+,JTs in a top heavy payout structure feels somewhere close to right.
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2014, 11:44:35 AM »

Toms range looks good to me, not sure there are many hands in my r/f range with these stacks
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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2014, 11:49:02 AM »

First instincts were it's close, but when you think about the size of your jam compared to the bigger stacks then they would need to call really, really tight.

I wouldn't open here, you are definitely going to be exploited for that vs people with a brain here, so jam instead.
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2014, 02:22:02 PM »

I think doing anything but jamming would be a mistake at this stack depth.
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2014, 02:37:43 PM »

If we had solid reads that everyone behind is really nitty and won't get ool at all then r/f has to be better than jamming, unlikely we'd have such reads though.

Jamming a very high % of the time, and certainly would be my default.

Tomsom's range looks about right, not folding 55 though Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2014, 03:04:03 PM »

Think i jam 22+, A2-A5s, A8s+, ATo+, QJs, KJs+ KQo.

KTs kinda bleugh as is A6/A7s and A9o, TJs etc. Dont think i'd ever fold KQ, on very very specific FTs i might r/f to some, but vs decent opponents I jam as standard and am fairly happy about it.
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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2014, 03:11:10 PM »

Actually, if i'm jamming A2-A5s i'm jamming KTs and TJs too
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2014, 03:16:09 PM »

Think i jam 22+, A2-A5s, A8s+, ATo+, QJs, KJs+ KQo.

KTs kinda bleugh as is A6/A7s and A9o, TJs etc. Dont think i'd ever fold KQ, on very very specific FTs i might r/f to some, but vs decent opponents I jam as standard and am fairly happy about it.

22-44 is too wide. KTs>>>>44 in this spot.
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2014, 03:18:42 PM »

not sure there are many hands in my r/f range with these stacks

Agree with this too.  There would have to be a whole packet of incompetence behind for me to start considering a m/r anything.
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2014, 04:34:43 PM »

i raised, they folded.
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