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[MereNovice]

For a long time I've been irked by the way that times are recorded using the twelve hour clock once twelve hours has passed.
Times such as 12:30pm should obviously be 00:30pm.

I feel even more aggrieved when 00:30am is reported as 12:30am.

If we can't get it right during the first hour of the day we are truly screwed.


If I started a petition would I get any support?  Who should I address it to?

[BorntoBubble]

im confused why do we need am and pm on a 24 hr clock

[MereNovice]

im confused why do we need am and pm on a 24 hr clock

"am" and "pm" aren't used on a 24 hour clock (as far as I know).

[BorntoBubble]

wow just re read your post and realized you mentioned nothing about a 24 hour clock. Im going to bed.

[TommyD]

You'd hate the clock on my oven Sir.  It's a 24hr clock and at midnight it reads 24:00 rather than 00:00.  Really not sure why.

[MereNovice]

You'd hate the clock on my oven Sir.  It's a 24hr clock and at midnight it reads 24:00 rather than 00:00.  Really not sure why.

I'm impressed that you are watching your oven at midnight.
I think we all need to be vigilant.

[Ironside]

You'd hate the clock on my oven Sir.  It's a 24hr clock and at midnight it reads 24:00 rather than 00:00.  Really not sure why.

there is no such time as 24:00 or 00:00 which means there is a minute in the air everyday as a squaddie this was our online time of day or night of our own as we were paid by the day not the hour as that minute didnt exist it was me time

[MereNovice]

You'd hate the clock on my oven Sir.  It's a 24hr clock and at midnight it reads 24:00 rather than 00:00.  Really not sure why.

there is no such time as 24:00 or 00:00 which means there is a minute in the air everyday as a squaddie this was our online time of day or night of our own as we were paid by the day not the hour as that minute didnt exist it was me time

I  hate to inconvenience squaddies but ...
As you say, there is no such time as 24:00.
However, 00:00 is certainly a time and 00:00 to 0:01 is very much a minute.

Anyway, that is only distracting from the very real problem of people having (nearly) 13 hours on a twelve hour clock.

I realise that most analogue clocks/watches have the number "12" at the top of the dial rather than "0" but this is merely an obfuscation in the most serious matter of the reporting of time.

[Ironside]

nope certainly no time as 00:00 clock should go from 23:59 to 00:01 but it cant or we would have to have leap days to correct it so instead we force a 00:00 into the 24 hour clock

[RED-DOG]

An opinion piece from Mr Mere?

About time.

[MereNovice]

nope certainly no time as 00:00 clock should go from 23:59 to 00:01 but it cant or we would have to have leap days to correct it so instead we force a 00:00 into the 24 hour clock

I think that you're teasing me but I'll respond anyway.

A clock can display 00:00 as easily as 24:00 and probably more easily/sensibly. I believe most 24 hours clocks do this as standard anyway.

My bugbear is 12 hour clocks displaying times greater than 12 hours.

Leap years are a consequence of the earth's orbit around the sun taking (approximately) 365.25 days - this bears no relation to an arbitrary decision to choose 24:00 or 00:00.

[MereNovice]

An opinion piece from Mr Mere?

About time.

I try to avoid flooding Blonde with my opinions.
People's time is precious; after all there are only 24 hours in a day.

[RED-DOG]

For a long time I've been irked by the way that times are recorded using the twelve hour clock once twelve hours has passed.
Times such as 12:30pm should obviously be 00:30pm.

I feel even more aggrieved when 00:30am is reported as 12:30am.

If we can't get it right during the first hour of the day we are truly screwed.


If I started a petition would I get any support?  Who should I address it to?

Why would it be 00.00 when 12 hours have past already?

How, according to Mere logic, should midday and midnight be written when using numerals to represent a 12 hour clock.

Keep your reply simple please. I'm not at my best at this time of the morning.

[MereNovice]

For a long time I've been irked by the way that times are recorded using the twelve hour clock once twelve hours has passed.
Times such as 12:30pm should obviously be 00:30pm.

I feel even more aggrieved when 00:30am is reported as 12:30am.

If we can't get it right during the first hour of the day we are truly screwed.


If I started a petition would I get any support?  Who should I address it to?

Why would it be 00.00 when 12 hours have past already?

How, according to Mere logic, should midday and midnight be written when using numerals to represent a 12 hour clock.

Keep your reply simple please. I'm not at my best at this time of the morning.

Both midday and midnight would be 00:00 (assuming you are only recording to the nearest minute).

The first minute of the day is/should be 00:01 not 12:01 or 24:01.

I don't know of any clocks (or ovens) that show time as 24:01 so why should a twelve hour clock display 12:01?

[Doobs]

Isn't the first minute of the day 00:20 here?