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« Reply #255 on: June 02, 2017, 11:46:28 PM »

Stoke could just outbid Everton?? I don't get that one Arb
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« Reply #256 on: June 03, 2017, 12:04:11 AM »

Stoke could just outbid Everton?? I don't get that one Arb


Stoke could outbid most clubs financially if they choose to.  Whether the players would actually come is an entirely different matter.  Stoke have way more financial clout owner wise than Everton and every club outside the big 6.  The owners are worth more than double Ashley for example.  21st on the uk rich list.  

If the owners start thinking cracking the big 6 would be worth the investment off the pitch to promote 365 as much as on the pitch then it will happen.  The club is a marketing tool globally for the cash cow.
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« Reply #257 on: June 03, 2017, 02:35:21 AM »

The guy who has had the roughest end of the stick imo is Crouch.  Delivers every time he is called upon then dropped for no reason at all time and time again.  He clearly isn't past it because his skill set ages so well as he has never had pace.

Can't help but agree with this. Crouch has been a class act for us, always seen as a back up rather than the main striker.
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« Reply #258 on: June 03, 2017, 04:26:27 PM »

Stoke could just outbid Everton?? I don't get that one Arb


Stoke could outbid most clubs financially if they choose to.  Whether the players would actually come is an entirely different matter.  Stoke have way more financial clout owner wise than Everton and every club outside the big 6.  The owners are worth more than double Ashley for example.  21st on the uk rich list.  

If the owners start thinking cracking the big 6 would be worth the investment off the pitch to promote 365 as much as on the pitch then it will happen.  The club is a marketing tool globally for the cash cow.

Attempting to compete with the top 6 is a pointless task, it would mean investing 100s of milions in a business with very poor revenue outside of TV money. You are already batting way above your level, stoke in turnover terms are relegation fodder? Youd need to spend 100s of millions and set the club up as a huge loss maker with no guarantees as the top 6 also have huge spending power and far greater revenue to rely on. Think youve missed the boat here where chelsea and man city did this, if youd done it years ago when the top 4 were so weak, now six teams who compete financially with anybody in the world, it would cost you 150m-200m just to bridge revenue gap?


Rooney is a great signing when you have a club with tiny exposure and your business also relys on it. There will be 10s of millions world wide who realsie who stoke are and bet365 get huge exposure to drive business in new markets. Also think his physical ability decline is over done and his problems are as much mental as anything else. He could just be huge for someone willing to gamble on him, hes always struck me as able to play the sheringham role and he would still be playing now if he was bucking so many reality tv stars.
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« Reply #259 on: June 09, 2017, 07:29:58 PM »

The guy who has had the roughest end of the stick imo is Crouch.  Delivers every time he is called upon then dropped for no reason at all time and time again.  He clearly isn't past it because his skill set ages so well as he has never had pace.

Can't help but agree with this. Crouch has been a class act for us, always seen as a back up rather than the main striker.


This..... underrated player. Though he is 36...has a good couple of seasons at the highest level left in him.
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« Reply #260 on: June 09, 2017, 11:10:31 PM »

Glenn whelan expected to move to villa fairly soon, we've turned down 500k for him so £1-2m for an aged player will add a few quid to the transfer kitty and bring the average age down! Been a top player for us though this last 10 years, not many better buys under Pulis.
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« Reply #261 on: June 12, 2017, 11:45:11 PM »

Stoke could just outbid Everton?? I don't get that one Arb


Stoke could outbid most clubs financially if they choose to.  Whether the players would actually come is an entirely different matter.  Stoke have way more financial clout owner wise than Everton and every club outside the big 6.  The owners are worth more than double Ashley for example.  21st on the uk rich list.  

If the owners start thinking cracking the big 6 would be worth the investment off the pitch to promote 365 as much as on the pitch then it will happen.  The club is a marketing tool globally for the cash cow.

Attempting to compete with the top 6 is a pointless task, it would mean investing 100s of milions in a business with very poor revenue outside of TV money. You are already batting way above your level, stoke in turnover terms are relegation fodder? Youd need to spend 100s of millions and set the club up as a huge loss maker with no guarantees as the top 6 also have huge spending power and far greater revenue to rely on. Think youve missed the boat here where chelsea and man city did this, if youd done it years ago when the top 4 were so weak, now six teams who compete financially with anybody in the world, it would cost you 150m-200m just to bridge revenue gap?


Rooney is a great signing when you have a club with tiny exposure and your business also relys on it. There will be 10s of millions world wide who realsie who stoke are and bet365 get huge exposure to drive business in new markets. Also think his physical ability decline is over done and his problems are as much mental as anything else. He could just be huge for someone willing to gamble on him, hes always struck me as able to play the sheringham role and he would still be playing now if he was bucking so many reality tv stars.

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« Reply #262 on: June 14, 2017, 11:09:15 AM »

Brutal first 2 months or so to start the new season:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11701/10912409/stoke-city-fixtures-premier-league-201718
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« Reply #263 on: June 14, 2017, 11:18:48 AM »


Awesome should be able to get a huge price on Stoke staying up again after 6 games when there will be the usual huge over reaction.  2/5 last year after 6 games.  Thank you fixture computer for paying for my next holiday again this year hopefully.
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« Reply #264 on: June 14, 2017, 11:51:10 AM »


Awesome should be able to get a huge price on Stoke staying up again after 6 games when there will be the usual huge over reaction.  2/5 last year after 6 games.  Thank you fixture computer for paying for my next holiday again this year hopefully.

I actually thought the same haha. A couple of years on blonde has got me thinking correctly at least!
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« Reply #265 on: June 14, 2017, 12:19:36 PM »

Dont know what all the panic is about. We should be top of the table by the start of 2018 Wink


August

12: Everton (a) 3 points

19: Arsenal (h) 1 point

26: West Brom (a) 3 points


September

9: Manchester United (h) 1 point

16: Newcastle United (a) 3 points


23: Chelsea (h) 1 point

30: Southampton (h) 3 points


October

14: Manchester City (a) 3 points


21: Bournemouth (h) 3 points


28: Watford (a) 3 points


November

4: Leicester City (h) 3 points


18: Brighton (a) 3 points


25: Crystal Palace (a) 3 points


29: Liverpool (h) 3 points


December

2: Swansea City (h) 3 points


9: Tottenham (a) 1 point

12: Burnley (a) 3 points


16: West Ham (h) 3 points


23: West Brom (h) 3 points


26: Huddersfield (a) 3 points


30: Chelsea (a) 1 point
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« Reply #266 on: June 14, 2017, 12:24:31 PM »

What would you price us to be bottom/ bottom 3 after 8 games? Trying to get on a few quid on using these request a bet things a few bookies seem to offer now.

Home to the Arse, United, Chelsea & Southampton
Away at Everton, WBA, Newcastle & Man city
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« Reply #267 on: June 14, 2017, 12:33:01 PM »

What would you price us to be bottom/ bottom 3 after 8 games? Trying to get on a few quid on using these request a bet things a few bookies seem to offer now.

Home to the Arse, United, Chelsea & Southampton
Away at Everton, WBA, Newcastle & Man city

Stoke will not be a fav to win any of those first 8 games.  Maybe close to a flip at home to Soton depending on the summer dealings.

They will be 5/1 dogs at home to Ars, Manure and Chelski roughly.  Probably a 2/1 slight dog at home to Soton.  12/1 away at Man C, 7/2 away at WBA and Newcastle and 6/1 away at Everton.

In points terms they will be in for roughly 0.7 points as a 5/1 home dog in those 3 games.  Soton 1.3 points.  Man City 0.4 points.  WBA/Newc 0.9 points each.  Everton 0.6 points.  Therefore expected points roughly in first 8 games is around 6.2 points.  So when Stoke have had a awful start according to the media and sit on 7 points after 8 games looking like they are struggling remember they are less likely to go down than they were pre season because they will be ahead of the EV curve.  The price will not relate to this however.  Hopefully they will be sat on 3 points (only 3 behind expectations) and it will be 'another terrible start from Hughes and his slow starters and we will be sub 2/1 to go down.
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« Reply #268 on: June 14, 2017, 05:11:12 PM »

Joke FC will be RELEGATED
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« Reply #269 on: July 11, 2017, 09:14:42 AM »

So one of our best players, Arnautovic, has handed in a transfer request, seemingly due to his belief that we aren't being ambitious enough. West Ham have had a £15m bid rejected, how much would it take to get the deal done in today's market, given his ability and that he's still got 3 years on his contract (I think!)- £20m? £25m?

Can't really see the appeal of joining West ham, seems a bit of a sideways step. AC Milan and PSG have been mentioned, I can't see the latter happening, surely he couldn't get anywhere near PSGs starting XI? I personally think we should be doing whatever we can to get him to stay.

Reading between the lines from the back end of last season to now there seems to be the notion that Sparkys lost/ is losing the dressing room.
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