How aggro do we go?

[SuuPRlim]

GAME #5981058854: Omaha  PL €2/€4 2014-09-15 20:42:22/GMT
Table Cenadi
Seat 1: MasonsJ (€1,309.84 in chips)
Seat 3: Lil Dave (€1,854.48 in chips)
Seat 5: xxOmgUrFitxx (€418.60 in chips)
Seat 6: BetorIWill (€403.30 in chips)
Seat 8: SayWhatAllLate (€370.92 in chips)
Seat 10: Im5oSowee (€160.00 in chips) DEALER
MasonsJ: Post SB €2.00
Lil Dave: Post BB €4.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Lil Dave [  ]
xxOmgUrFitxx: Raise (NF) €8.00
BetorIWill: Fold
SayWhatAllLate: Fold
Im5oSowee: Call €8.00
MasonsJ: Call €6.00
Lil Dave: Call €4.00
*** FLOP *** [ ]
MasonsJ: Check
Lil Dave: Check
xxOmgUrFitxx: Check
Im5oSowee: Check
*** TURN *** []
MasonsJ: Bet €16.00
Lil Dave: Raise (NF) €66.00
xxOmgUrFitxx: Fold
Im5oSowee: Raise (NF) Allin €152.00
MasonsJ: Call €136.00
Lil Dave: Raise (NF) €452.00


Lots of chances to put more/less chips into the pot, How aggro do you play this?

[Oxford_HRV]

im50sowee reps Kx think he will always have bet a set or 2p otf.
masonsJ will have to have Kx and rarely trapping KK

i think you played this perfect, masons has to fold everything but KK and if he continues he should never raise so you can make showdown for free.

[SuuPRlim]

i think you played this perfect, masons has to fold everything but KK and if he continues he should never raise so you can make showdown for free.

you dont think he'll call K*** ?

[Oxford_HRV]

i think you played this perfect, masons has to fold everything but KK and if he continues he should never raise so you can make showdown for free.

you dont think he'll call K*** ?

not always no he's drawing thin and its 300 more! what you doing if he calls and donks every river? do you think your hand looks face up here considering action?

[SuuPRlim]

I would fold.

and yes probably, but IDK if these two players think that.

[Oxford_HRV]

i think betting turn big is best to maximise fold equity vs Kxxx

i think if masons is solid tight i'd like to go big on the turn. if he's more loose and peely i dont think we can raise at any time. we are too deep and have a real vunerable hand.

[Doobs]

i think betting turn big is best to maximise fold equity vs Kxxx

i think if masons is solid tight i'd like to go big on the turn. if he's more loose and peely i dont think we can raise at any time. we are too deep and have a real vunerable hand.

Do we want to maximise fold equity against hands we beat?  Surely we want to maximise the amount we make from calls?  Think they are morelikely to call with a king here than the river so we should probably raise (K2 and K3 seem very unlikely, so hoping this isn't KK and 22!)

Glad we get to act last on the river.  Guess there would be a lot of rivers I'll check behind, guess we bet the low ones?

[Oxford_HRV]

i think betting turn big is best to maximise fold equity vs Kxxx

i think if masons is solid tight i'd like to go big on the turn. if he's more loose and peely i dont think we can raise at any time. we are too deep and have a real vunerable hand.

Do we want to maximise fold equity against hands we beat?  Surely we want to maximise the amount we make from calls?  Think they are morelikely to call with a king here than the river so we should probably raise (K2 and K3 seem very unlikely, so hoping this isn't KK and 22!)

Glad we get to act last on the river.  Guess there would be a lot of rivers I'll check behind, guess we bet the low ones?

i would check every river, i think both players rep trips, masons can have any Kxxx so even the low ones are scary, if masons realises what hand we look like we have he can call and donk every river.

we surely do want to maximise the amount we make from calls but we do want to pressure him into folding, this is never a hand where we can stack the villain or ever value bet the river, i would always try to get masons to fold to go HU with the shorty.

[SuuPRlim]

i think if he's adamant I have 33 then jamming the turn is the best play right?

I will prolly fold, and he can still win if i dont

[Oxford_HRV]

If he's adamant you've got threes full its only cus he has Kings full. he should jam turn but more often I'd prefer to donk all rivers

If you think im50sowee always has Kxxx and then masonsj has only K3/K2/KK for real value and im confident he will never bluff trips with this action. so folding if he goes over the top.

Can I ask what's your reasons to check flop?