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Question: I will be voting for the following in the General election  (Voting closed: May 10, 2015, 02:10:42 PM)
Conservative - 41 (40.6%)
Labour - 20 (19.8%)
Liberal Democrat - 6 (5.9%)
SNP - 9 (8.9%)
UKIP - 3 (3%)
Green - 7 (6.9%)
Other - 3 (3%)
I will not be voting - 12 (11.9%)
Total Voters: 100

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« Reply #855 on: April 26, 2015, 04:04:25 PM »


The tone was set in the opening paragraph "The launch of the separatist Scottish National Party's manifesto today is unlikely to have troubled the consciousness of the average English voter."

Written by an anoymous tory for a tory audience. 

I tend to agree that the SNP manifesto isn't bold enough, but I also said the same through out the Independence Referendum, the YES campaign in general failed where it tried to be to middle ground, it failed in SNP strongholds yet in the areas that voted Yes it was in areas that Labour took for granted for far too long. 

I do wonder where the proof is though that Sturgeon admired Michael Foot. 
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« Reply #856 on: April 26, 2015, 04:14:31 PM »

It's in the economist. Very reputable independent publication. You do tend to dismiss anything you don't like far too easily!
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« Reply #857 on: April 26, 2015, 04:27:37 PM »

It's in the economist. Very reputable independent publication. You do tend to dismiss anything you don't like far too easily!

It's not that I don't like it.  Just saying the tone was set, the economist is hardly independent though.  You don't really believe it is do you?   There isn't a media publication that isn't biased in some way or another.
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« Reply #858 on: April 26, 2015, 06:00:05 PM »

It's not setting a tone, it's stating a fact. The average English voter had absolutely no fucking clue the SNP were launching a manifesto.
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« Reply #859 on: April 26, 2015, 06:25:51 PM »

It's in the economist. Very reputable independent publication. You do tend to dismiss anything you don't like far too easily!

It's not that I don't like it.  Just saying the tone was set, the economist is hardly independent though.  You don't really believe it is do you?   There isn't a media publication that isn't biased in some way or another.

i take most of what i read form most organisations and know that i have to understand what its slant is, whether thats the mail, or guardian or whatever

the economist, part of the FT group, is one of the few where you can genuinely say its not got an axe to grind

if something appears in it, or the FT, then you can say its journalism is rigorous and not pounding the drum for a biased media baron who has funded a party for example

"The Economist claims that it "is not a chronicle of economics".[10] Rather, it aims "to take part in a severe contest between intelligence, which presses forward, and an unworthy, timid ignorance obstructing our progress".[11] It takes an editorial stance of classical and economic liberalism which is supportive of free trade, globalisation, free immigration and cultural liberalism (such as supporting legal recognition for same-sex marriage). The publication has described itself as "a product of the Caledonian liberalism of Adam Smith and David Hume".[12] It targets highly educated readers and claims an audience containing many influential executives and policy-makers.[13] The newspaper's CEO described this recent global change, which was first noticed in the 1990s and accelerated in the beginning of the 21st century, as a "new age of Mass Intelligence".

i thought it was a really interesting article with a different slant on things.
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« Reply #860 on: April 26, 2015, 10:10:56 PM »

It's not setting a tone, it's stating a fact. The average English voter had absolutely no fucking clue the SNP were launching a manifesto.

It had more to do with the tone of calling the Nats separatists.   I would have expected better from The Economist.  There is nothing separatist about self determination. 
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« Reply #861 on: April 26, 2015, 10:16:19 PM »

Lol.  Whether they are right or wrong you are seriously saying that wanting to split off from the UK can't be defined as 'separatist'!!??
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« Reply #862 on: April 27, 2015, 09:33:20 AM »

"SNP trying to get out of England the answer it couldn’t get out of Scotland last year." Says DUP Westminster leader

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/26/uk-legitimacy-snp-nicola-sturgeon-tories-english-votes-law
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« Reply #863 on: April 27, 2015, 12:27:05 PM »

this is a remarkable one

today's TNS poll saw the SNP move further ahead to 54% up 2%

in graphical form

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« Reply #864 on: April 27, 2015, 05:55:36 PM »

this is a remarkable one

today's TNS poll saw the SNP move further ahead to 54% up 2%

in graphical form

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nil tories in scotland looking better and better every day according to polls
but bookies still think they will win one tories are still favourites to win the 2 seats pointed out last week
but to win no seats is now 7/4 on billy was nearer 3/1 last week

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/conservatives-to-win-at-least-one-seat-in-scotland
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« Reply #865 on: April 27, 2015, 06:07:55 PM »

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« Reply #866 on: April 27, 2015, 07:52:34 PM »

Nate silver (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Silver) is on panorama tonight about the UK election. BBC1 at 830.

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« Reply #867 on: April 27, 2015, 07:55:32 PM »

Nate silver (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Silver) is on panorama tonight about the UK election. BBC1 at 830.



Sounds like quite the shrewdie.
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« Reply #868 on: April 27, 2015, 07:58:50 PM »

Newsnight Index latest seat forecast - drop for Tories and first gain for UKIP since Index began

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« Reply #869 on: April 27, 2015, 08:31:36 PM »

Great round-up of the pollsters

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