Opinion on a staking offer - Live cash (Not an actual offer)

[dakky]

If you really want to play live cash for fun/profit/lols then why not just grind online under your current backing deal and when you make some money then take some shots with all your own action?

[Ash1591]

I had a small stable a couple years ago and learnt some valuable lessons. Currently not looking to reopen the Goulden empire!

That's a shame man, will continue looking.

[Ash1591]

Hi Ash,

This CANNOT work. Sorry to be blunt, but that's how it is.

Just play for fun, & concentrate on getting your degree.

Once you have done that, & if you really are confident you would be a winner at 1/1 (as you say) then borrow £500 from the Bank, or family, or get £500 off a credit or Debit Card.

I'd offer extremely long odds that you cannot make a living at "Live" 1/1.

If you can -& I hope that's the case - you are a very rare beast indeed, & you won't ever need a backer. 

Giving away 90% of your (presumed) profits just ain't gonna work. 

You are addicted to poker, as so many of us are. You gotta keep those feet on the ground though, the chances of you being a winning "live" player (allowing for exs) are extremely small.

Good luck, whatever you do, but please don't go down your intended route, it will end badly.

Hi Tikay, thanks for the response!

I was only planning on giving away the big percentage at first to prove I can win. Also where you say going down the intended route do you mean the 10/90 split or just staking in general?

Also I have no ambitions to play 1/1 for a living I will continue with my degree and play 1-3 nights a week as a part-time job which is also my hobby which is perfect.

[tikay]

Hi Ash,

This CANNOT work. Sorry to be blunt, but that's how it is.

Just play for fun, & concentrate on getting your degree.

Once you have done that, & if you really are confident you would be a winner at 1/1 (as you say) then borrow £500 from the Bank, or family, or get £500 off a credit or Debit Card.

I'd offer extremely long odds that you cannot make a living at "Live" 1/1.

If you can -& I hope that's the case - you are a very rare beast indeed, & you won't ever need a backer. 

Giving away 90% of your (presumed) profits just ain't gonna work. 

You are addicted to poker, as so many of us are. You gotta keep those feet on the ground though, the chances of you being a winning "live" player (allowing for exs) are extremely small.

Good luck, whatever you do, but please don't go down your intended route, it will end badly.

Hi Tikay, thanks for the response!

I was only planning on giving away the big percentage at first to prove I can win. Also where you say going down the intended route do you mean the 10/90 split or just staking in general?

Also I have no ambitions to play 1/1 for a living I will continue with my degree and play 1-3 nights a week as a part-time job which is also my hobby which is perfect.

You don't need to do a 10/90 deal to "prove you can win" Ash. Just play a reasonable sample size online over a few months, job done. AND you get to keep all the profit.

[pleno1]

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tom hall who is currently 1/9 on final of ukpc ash..


look at the consistency, lack of downswings etc

you may think he has a secret code, but its really only hard work.

[mikeymike]

Ash

Slightly different take to achieve this - join a local poker club that has say a hardcore of 30 players every week who play 3 times a week with at least one £30 buy in weekly tournament, if you end up regularly cashing over say a 3 month period - your chances are that several of the core players may back you at favorable terms.

GL

[Ash1591]

In response to Tikay will keep grinding online and start saving for a live cash roll from my winnings.


In response to Pleno1 you should of just shown your graph you sicko! Keep crushing mate although Tom Hall is a legit sicko aswell!


In response to Mikeymike, do you mean like pub leagues like that redtooth stuff? or do you mean like local casinos?

[mikeymike]

I mean pub/social clubs - the working social club where i play has a hardcore of players who play and cash up at dtd on a regular basis - also just because there social clubs the people that play are a right mixture - from guys who are looking for work to guys that run and own successful businesses - you will find that if your liked there will be guys that will back you because it is fun - we have good players who run bad and are maybe going through a lean time so sometimes we will say were off to xxxxx to play the xxxx and we will pay there entry fee no strings attached.

Also we have a reasonable well known pro who when he is in town may come and play for a six week period and everybody wants his scalp

[Simon Galloway]

In response to Tikay will keep grinding online and start saving for a live cash roll from my winnings.


In response to Pleno1 you should of just shown your graph you sicko! Keep crushing mate although Tom Hall is a legit sicko aswell!


In response to Mikeymike, do you mean like pub leagues like that redtooth stuff? or do you mean like local casinos?

Wondered if you had an 'in response' to my suggestion

[Ash1591]

Rather than giving 50% of yourself away live, just get your head down, win the equivalent of the "other" 50% from online endeavours in a fraction of the time and stake yourself live.  Assuming you have edge in the games you play online, this will be by FAR the best way for you.  Then you can play live whenever you like, for a change of scenery, to socialise, to feel some cards in your hands, to gorge on fillet steak, as often or as little as you feel like it.  Regardless of how much you are chasing the $$ or not as a goal, the simple fact is that for a self-funded player, a decent amount of $$ stored away is going to make things a lot easier, so you should initially see building up a pile of $$ as an 'enabler' to then subsequently do as you please.

Hey mate sorry for not replying didn't actually see your message! The games I play online I am indeed a winner so in time I will be able to get a live roll I'm sure.

After everyone's comment think I am going to stick to online for a while then play a little bit of live cash here and there.