walking along, singing a song

[Ironside]

i am disapointed i havent played 1000 games yet was thinking i would be playing 3000 in a month
but the scheduled events hog the time and unless you get a top 3 in one of them they aint that good for profit

[rfgqqabc]

Tight is right in o8 Iron, whether plo8 or nlo8.

The main differences between the two are that with 12-20bb in nlo8 we can profitably jam hands that would be a bit trickier to play in plo8, hands like aqj5ss from the HJ in plo8 might be a fold for 20bb whereas we can just rip it in in the NLO8 stuff. I dont think your ranges should change too dramatically between the two. Judging how your opponents play is one of the harder things, most regulars you can fold many hands too, but the fish tend to be absolutely bananas, so sometimes you just have to call off these huge shoves. I lost a big pot to 9875r on sunday in the 82 o8, but I didn't recognise the guy so calling off A23Jds (i think) felt correct for 28bb.

[Ironside]

this hand has been troubling me since i folded it
i went on to win the game
and would of won the hand
i know its an insta fold
but surely they are all sharing cards making it more likely AA will hold up
lets say the was the is anyone calling now?

PokerStars Hand #127527743465: Tournament #1089695497, $6.45+$0.55 USD Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2014/12/26 21:51:00 WET [2014/12/26 16:51:00 ET]
Table '1089695497 2' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: biood1 (6015 in chips)
Seat 2: murd_1 (4539 in chips)
Seat 3: Ironside (7144 in chips)
Seat 4: johnniewalk (2758 in chips)
Seat 5: Scorpio1949 (844 in chips)
Seat 7: gorillaee55 (5700 in chips)
biood1: posts the ante 25
murd_1: posts the ante 25
Ironside: posts the ante 25
johnniewalk: posts the ante 25
Scorpio1949: posts the ante 25
gorillaee55: posts the ante 25
Ironside: posts small blind 100
johnniewalk: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [As ]
Scorpio1949: raises 619 to 819 and is all-in
gorillaee55: folds
biood1: raises 5171 to 5990 and is all-in
murd_1: calls 4514 and is all-in
Ironside: folds

[rfgqqabc]

If the 8 was a 2 you couldn't pay me to fold but o8 is a funny game and I wouldn't be particularly happy flicking it in here. Get ppt out and found out though!

Quantum is  weird guy, good at the game though, just a bit bananas, particularly him and Billy g

[Ironside]

was cruising the $3.50 HE and hi/lo
but struggling on the $7 hi/lo

i dont think the standard is much different think its just variance
but hoping to sort it out before it becomes a mental problem

started to feel the effects of some wine i had tonight and made some silly calls

[Doobs]

If the 8 was a 2 you couldn't pay me to fold but o8 is a funny game and I wouldn't be particularly happy flicking it in here. Get ppt out and found out though!

Quantum is  weird guy, good at the game though, just a bit bananas, particularly him and Billy g

I never fold AA with any low.  I don't want to find out it is bad even if it is.  I have folded AA with High cards before.  Biood would never fold it and he will tell you he is the boss now bokkie doesn't play so much.

[Ironside]

well the 8 is a low would you have called there doobs?

[Doobs]

well the 8 is a low would you have called there doobs?

yep, I just can't bring myself to fold. 

[Ironside]

i did hate myself when i did it especially when i would of scoop with tens full of aces and we would of got past the bubble
but as it happened we moved on still 6 handed

i just couldnt see a way to win surely all the aces would be out so we are looking for 1 pair winning hands 4 handed there isnt many boards 1 pair can win
we have one flush draw and can only make 1 straight we rarely win the low and if we do win the low we aren't winning the high
i can see a reason for calling if its just shorty and 1 other but 2 others i think we are in trouble

remember we are 1/6 at start of hand and likely to still be 1/6 2/5 2/4 after the hand and still with healthy stack to apply pressure and win
calling and losing will put the pressure on us

[Ironside]

here is end of hand and twodimes verdict

johnniewalk: folds
Uncalled bet (1476) returned to biood1
*** FLOP *** [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ]

*** RIVER *** [ ] [] *** SHOW DOWN *** biood1: shows [ ] (HI: three of a kind, Tens) murd_1: shows [ Ah] (HI: a full house, Tens full of Fives) murd_1 collected 7390 from side pot Scorpio1949: shows [ ] (HI: a full house, Tens full of Fives) Scorpio1949 collected 1454 from main pot murd_1 collected 1453 from main pot No low hand qualified *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 10297 Main pot 2907. Side pot 7390. | Rake 0 Board [ ] Seat 1: biood1 showed [ ] and lost with HI: three of a kind, Tens Seat 2: murd_1 (button) showed [ Ah] and won (8843) with HI: a full house, Tens full of Fives Seat 3: Ironside (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: johnniewalk (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 5: Scorpio1949 showed [ ] and won (1454) with HI: a full house, Tens full of Fives Seat 7: gorillaee55 folded before Flop (didn't bet) http://twodimes.net/h/?z=9211084 pokenum  -o8 as ac kc  - ad jd  - ah  - Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 376992 enumerated boards cards           scoop   HIwin   HIlos  HItie  LOwin   LOlos  LOtie     EV As       146311  188409  185664   2919      0   80159      0  0.448        86159  106954  267119   2919  81675   39352      0  0.343     Ah    4377    5025  358968  12999  55383   81675      0  0.091        21375   60686  303307  12999      0  126060      0  0.117 simply by making murds hand into something more likely to be in the pot our hand becomes a dog with only 25% eq http://twodimes.net/h/?z=9211086 pokenum  -o8 as ac kc  - ad jd  - ks kh ah  - Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 376992 enumerated boards cards          scoop   HIwin   HIlos  HItie   LOwin   LOlos  LOtie     EV As       72824  103233  262301  11458    1843  117372    684  0.251       66864   87220  288126   1646  112854   49796   3744  0.321   Ah    64666   82821  282397  11774   62827   70487   3744  0.278       21283   91350  285048    594       0  151324      0  0.150 simple by changing the 8 to a  2 we are now getting better equity and a suited 2 a ltiny bit more http://twodimes.net/h/?z=9211090 pokenum  -o8 as ac kc  - ad jd  - ah  - Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 376992 enumerated boards cards           scoop   HIwin   HIlos  HItie  LOwin   LOlos  LOtie     EV As       157761  201158  171022   4812      0   14304  78180  0.534        60201   90494  281686   4812  14116   31112  78180  0.271     Ah    3811    4517  361442  11033  42194   92296      0  0.072        22512   64978  300981  11033      0  123408      0  0.123 http://twodimes.net/h/?z=9211091 pokenum  -o8 as ac kc  - ad jd  - ah  - Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 376992 enumerated boards cards           scoop   HIwin   HIlos  HItie  LOwin   LOlos  LOtie     EV As       159350  206567  166534   3891      0   14304  78180  0.542        55174   83328  289773   3891  14116   31112  78180  0.254     Ah    3325    3951  364273   8768  42194   92296      0  0.070        26573   70487  297737   8768      0  123408      0  0.135 i haven't got software to put in ranges and that can sort of the split pots the only hand that shocked me was murd's i would of likely played the other 2 the same and if murd had folded i would of called

[Doobs]

I don't think putting in one of the worst hands for you is a better way of looking at it.  People do play terribly all the way up the levels.  I think if you want to look at ranges, get rid of the short stack (he isn't ever damaging you) and assume this kind of thing.

http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?g=o8&h1=Ahaskh8c&h2=A2%2A%2C+a3%2A%2CAk%2A%2C+kk%2A%2C+Aa%2A&h3=A2%2A%2C+a3%2A%2C+Ak%2A%2C+Kk%2A%2C+Aa%2A&s=generic

Under that something like 50% of the time you find yourself 4th or 5th.  But 25% of the time you are locked for 1st and the rest you'd struggle to miss 2nd.

You could probably adjust for people just going loopy by adding 55** to their ranges.  

Edit.  That still makes you 50% or so to go 4th or 5th.  I think it is fair to assume biood never has a spew hand.  

[Ironside]

Ok I am already tucked up in bed for the night and out tomorrow so I am going to this chapter of my diary with the final sharkscope tomorrow.

I will then reduce my roll to $300 to start the new year and the new chapter
At the end of each month I will either add money to the account to reach 300$ or withdraw 50% of any profit on the month hopefully I will do the later more often than the former and hopefully this time next year I will have moved up in cost of buy ins

[Ironside]

my viewing pleasure over the last month has been elementary, NFL and the equalizer TV series.

i have now finished the equalizer and i am upto date with elementary so i am going to start of the new year

with one of these options of tv series of which have watch before but not in order and not every episode

highlander
tour of duty
the a team
knightrider
new tricks
hustle
taxi
las vegas (although i certain i have seen all of this in order i an not sure)

along side which i will catch up on criminal minds i am at the start of season 9


i also still have frasier and west wing to watch i have the box sets but not seen a single show


the poker shows a near $200 loss but having used fpp's it does seem to have made a dent in the roll and the spin and goes i am up about 250$ i guess if it wasnt for the lucky 2 spins of $600 games i would be down in them too


going to start off the new year just playing the 3.5$ sng omaha8 and 45 nan holdem and unless my roll gets to 700$ i will only play them

i will post sharkscopes weekly and put my daily roll count in my sig

if anyone wants to recommend stuff for me to view please feel free to let me know

[Ironside]

great start to the new year for me aberdeen go top of the league
and the saints beat arsenal to remain in the top 4
i couldn't of imagined this at the beginning of the season

[Ironside]

just one more thing


thats right i went for columbo even though it wasnt on the list