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« Reply #135 on: May 22, 2015, 09:56:20 PM »

Interesting hand from the other night. Blinds are 150/300 and we have around 35K(155BB) and are in the small blind with   .

Action is the following: UTG+3 opens for a min raise (We have live tells on this one. Never seen him before, but in the hour i have been playing when he has a strong hand he blows his cheeks out and sits up straight!) two calls, Will calls on the button also, we call and the so does the BB. Pot 3.5Kish

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    three clubs

Action folds round to Will who bets out 1500 (He has been betting on all flops when checked to and giving up on most turns. We have a look around and can tell the original raiser has already mentally folded and decided to float with the plan to take it away on scary cards (Flushes and Aces and kings mainly). To my surprise the original raiser calls behind. Pot 7.5K

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I have a look around and the guy isn't giving off his strong tell and Will is not talking for a change. So I decide to donk bet out 3.2K. Both players snap fold.

Someone mentioned to Will why did he fold, to which he responded "he didn't float with anything less than the nut flush draw and got their on the turn. I found this interesting, as it seems that people give a lot of respect to tight players (Hadn't been as active as normal) and it forces them to tighten up their range to the top to continue on bad turn cards.

Thinking about how I react when in the spot i put them in I do the same. Sometimes I get stubborn, but it depends on the player. Might be a play to deploy a bit more often, add it to my arsenal.

Then I was watching the live stream of the GUKPT of Edinburgh and saw a player using this all the time and getting it through. It seems like people are not sure how to proceed against this and end up just calling when they should be raising for value or just giving up the worse hand incorrectly.

Pretty sure this play is not a new thing, but it just seems to be working against the current meta game.
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« Reply #136 on: May 22, 2015, 11:10:25 PM »

Interesting hand from the other night. Blinds are 150/300 and we have around 35K(155BB) and are in the small blind with   .

Action is the following: UTG+3 opens for a min raise (We have live tells on this one. Never seen him before, but in the hour i have been playing when he has a strong hand he blows his cheeks out and sits up straight!) two calls, Will calls on the button also, we call and the so does the BB. Pot 3.5Kish

Flop

    three clubs

Action folds round to Will who bets out 1500 (He has been betting on all flops when checked to and giving up on most turns. We have a look around and can tell the original raiser has already mentally folded and decided to float with the plan to take it away on scary cards (Flushes and Aces and kings mainly). To my surprise the original raiser calls behind. Pot 7.5K

Turn

 

I have a look around and the guy isn't giving off his strong tell and Will is not talking for a change. So I decide to donk bet out 3.2K. Both players snap fold.

Someone mentioned to Will why did he fold, to which he responded "he didn't float with anything less than the nut flush draw and got their on the turn. I found this interesting, as it seems that people give a lot of respect to tight players (Hadn't been as active as normal) and it forces them to tighten up their range to the top to continue on bad turn cards.

Thinking about how I react when in the spot i put them in I do the same. Sometimes I get stubborn, but it depends on the player. Might be a play to deploy a bit more often, add it to my arsenal.

Then I was watching the live stream of the GUKPT of Edinburgh and saw a player using this all the time and getting it through. It seems like people are not sure how to proceed against this and end up just calling when they should be raising for value or just giving up the worse hand incorrectly.

Pretty sure this play is not a new thing, but it just seems to be working against the current meta game.

The   is a pretty deece barrel card for Will though, and it's such a small portion of your perceived range there. Like you can't have 56, 89, 9T, JT, KJdd etc seeing as you just called a min raise out of the SB in a multiway pot.

If you did have A-T of Diamonds for example, are you not more likely to check/raise flop that deep? Or at least check/call turn as I'd expect Will to continue barreling.

If you get called on the turn with   and the river bricks, it's a mandatory bet, and I think you get snapped off by like 8x, 99, TT a lot, and the only value hand I think you really rep is A-X diamonds. Everything else is just other missed draws. If we river a pair we just try and check it through I guess.

I think leading turn just makes the hand way more difficult for ourselves sometimes, and while it worked this time - we both know how sticky Luton tourney regs can be with a even a single pair, especially when it's gigantic stack Monday where they can flick in 5k on the river and still have 100bb at 11pm. Against someone like Will who's switched on, we can have a go at it, but I don't advocate floating OOP multiway with two overs (one of which isn't really that great for us) and potentially dirty backdoor outs.

Just my Two Clubs. Not saying you're wrong for doing it, I just think that we end up having to bang the river a lot and try and get a fold there and risking 10k of our stack when we can just check/give up and move on.

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« Reply #137 on: May 22, 2015, 11:37:17 PM »

Cheers for the feedback. Appreciated.

I think your right in what your saying. Maybe it wont work a high % of the time to make it worth while. Just something I think might be worth playing with. Not so much in main events but just the fun tournaments.

It does put a lot of over cards combo hands in a tough spot and you probably have to be deep to make this play/work.
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« Reply #138 on: May 25, 2015, 01:02:07 PM »

Trip up to Birmingham, was a mixed bag. Heading up the Boost Valve for the turbo went 3 times. First time in the Middle Lane on the M1, with no traffic on our left, so we got across safely to the hard shoulder. Managed to get the engine going and got back on to the road. The old heart was pumping as I was convinced we wouldn't be able to make the speed up in time and would end up causing an accident.

We stayed in the slow lane for a while before the it went again and we made our way to the hard shoulder and repeated the process to get the car starting again. Driving on the M6 was okay as the speed was capped at 50MPH which the car handled comfortably, but as the road works came to an end we found ourselves in the fast line, boxed in by a line of Lorries. We tired to speed up a bit to get in front, to allow us to move across the lanes, as we had guys behind wanting to do 70+ and wanted to get out of the way. Then it happened again. engine stalled, hazard lights on, losing speed, we saw a gab just in front of a Eddie Stowbart Lorry. The Idiot wasn't paying attention to the road and speed up instead of letting as across. Thankfully the car behind us put his hazard lights on too and the traffic slowed down behind us. After a the next lorry aloud us to move across, and then the power steering went. A few moments later we had finally managed to get to the safety of the hard shoulder.

After a phone call to our trusty retired mechanic and bangers racer. We had been told not to take the car out of 4th gear and if it went again we would come out with a rope and tow as back! Thankfully we made it the rest of the way in 4th gear and checked into our hotel on top of a Toby Carvery. Never experienced anything like it. It felt like a since out of the next fast and furious film, Just this time without the stunt men and cameras.  
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« Reply #139 on: May 25, 2015, 01:45:31 PM »

Had dinner and breakfast at the Carvery both days/nights we were there. I never realised how cheap it would be for a family of 4. Its been a while since I had been to a Toby's and the last time I was there I wasn't paying! The food was lovely too, and the portions of meat plentiful.

Took the kids to Cadbury's world the first morning there, had to take a couple of busses and was there for 9. Walking up to the entrance I noticed no one was around. Completely empty. Grab my phone out of my pocket and check the opening times. 10-3 on the Wednesday. Bugger. What to do with two little ones for an hour? Weather wasn't great. We found some of the moving car/tractor toy machine things and hang about their with the kids having turns and playing around with them. Then an old fashioned game of I spy which it turned out they are slightly too young to grasp how the game works.

Checked the watch. 09.50. Time flew by. Making my way back to the entrance I hear a noise similar to Thunder. I turn around to look and can see an army of students (Turned out to be French) heading up to the entrance. Great, I was hoping for a private show! Arrived at the entrance and was greeted by two lovey Canadian women (Having kids means that your a walking magnet when it comes to talking to strangers). They had come over and flew into Scotland to visit some friends and family, and other various parts of the country, had a free day and decided to check out Cadbury's World. I assumed they hadn't just driven down from Scotland for the pleasure?  

We got our tickets and I wanted to get out in front of the School trip, so we picked up our free chocolates and headed to the main event which is a tour of the factory and history of chocolate and how Mr Cadbury built is company from the bottom up. I didn't know who was enjoying it more at this point me or the kids. The whole place smelt like melting chocolate. As you wonder your way around you get to see how they make, and package the chocolate, try some of the melted goods yourself with 3 toppings of your choice, and be told some stories of how expensive chocolate used to be. Played on some interactive games with Ivey which involved planting and growing a coco tree, before harvesting the beans. Another one involved chasing around cream eggs in order to smash them before moving on to the next level. Great fun.  

At the end of the tour you exit to the shop where you can buy chocolate at basically wholesale price. You can also get chocolate which I haven't seen in shops for a while, Like the Curly Wurly! Also new chocolates which haven't  yet been distributed nationwide. I knew my Mrs would never forgive me if I didn't come back with a basket full or two. Wasn't as expensive as I first thought.  Money well spent.

Kids enjoyed it which was then main aim, they had fallen to sleep on the walk back to the bus stop.  One on my shoulders and one in the push chair. Bumped into the Canadian ladies again at the bus stop for another chat. I have never met a Canadian who wasn't friendly, bubbly and easy to start a conversation with. Probably thought I was stalking them at this point.... Maybe I was....    
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« Reply #140 on: May 26, 2015, 01:40:21 PM »

Decided I will be heading down to Cardiff on the Thursday instead of the Friday. Cant resist a bit of PLO 4/5/6 round of each!

Trouble is I probably wont get the time off work, overdue a sick day I think. Any ingenious ideas for sick day excuses?

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« Reply #141 on: May 26, 2015, 05:48:36 PM »

Decided I will be heading down to Cardiff on the Thursday instead of the Friday. Cant resist a bit of PLO 4/5/6 round of each!

Trouble is I probably wont get the time off work, overdue a sick day I think. Any ingenious ideas for sick day excuses?



Generally found that sickness and diarrhoea is dependable :-)
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« Reply #142 on: May 26, 2015, 06:24:00 PM »

Did they have any Fuse bars up there?

I have been looking for them for ages, pretty sure they've been discontinued. Stone cold nut chocolate IMO.
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« Reply #143 on: May 26, 2015, 07:43:09 PM »

Decided I will be heading down to Cardiff on the Thursday instead of the Friday. Cant resist a bit of PLO 4/5/6 round of each!

Trouble is I probably wont get the time off work, overdue a sick day I think. Any ingenious ideas for sick day excuses?



Generally found that sickness and diarrhoea is dependable :-)

Might just try this!
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« Reply #144 on: May 26, 2015, 07:48:10 PM »

Did they have any Fuse bars up there?

I have been looking for them for ages, pretty sure they've been discontinued. Stone cold nut chocolate IMO.

No Fuse bars. Cry Just googled it... they are classed as a top 5 Cadbury's failed bars!

No email for complaints unfortunately 
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« Reply #145 on: May 28, 2015, 11:43:56 AM »

Bags packed, train booked for 12.45. Just enough time to watch penny dreadful before heading out. Should get to Cardiff around 5ish and have just enough time to get to my hotel check in and then head to the casino for the PLO at 6.

Looking forward to this trip... Can you tell!

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« Reply #146 on: May 28, 2015, 01:47:01 PM »

GL this weekend Shane.
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« Reply #147 on: May 28, 2015, 03:27:52 PM »

Thanks Rich.
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« Reply #148 on: May 28, 2015, 09:03:16 PM »

gl - shane - down to london tommorrow - post your results - and hope you run deep
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« Reply #149 on: May 28, 2015, 09:54:17 PM »

Pretty grim start to the weekend. Did two bullets in the PLO getting it in 65% ahead both times (propoker tooled it!). Then late regrestered into the main. Started well, then run KK into AA preflop. Back at the hotel now for some cool down time me thinks. Not before doing 200 on the BJ.... Sigh.

Will post some of the hands up later. Tomorrow is another day!
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