NFL 2015 season Thread

[Sheriff Fatman]

Sigh, goodbye Shady, hello Kiko.

WTF?

[Longy]

Wow. Something has gone on here with McCoy either there is a falling out behind the scenes or the Eagles think he is regressing. Runnings backs do wear pretty quickly in the NFL and are replaceable but I must admit I thought shady was slightly above this and did things others rbs couldn't.

Obviously chip knows kiko and he has been pretty damn good for buffalo.

[Longy]

After reading around most people seem to like the Eagles side of this. It frees up s lot of cap space for Philly being one of the main plus point for them.

Interesting.

[Tal]

WOWWWWW,  HUGE TRADE

FKIN love Free agency and Trades.

LB Kiko Alonso (BUF) for RB LeSean McCoy (PHI)

Mixed feelings about this one, but I suppose that means it's a fair trade. Alonso out all of last season with a torn ACL, but third the year before - his rookie season - in tackles across the whole NFL (2.5 times more tackles than any Eagle last year).

However, we're in a division with one Brady and two non-existent QBs, with no superstar running backs. We have strength on the inside of our defense (interesting to see whether we re-sign Jerry Hughes now) and an explosive running back will make a big difference.

Of course, $825k this season for Alonso or $10m for McCoy is also relevant! We need to build for 3 seasons' time when Brady retires to try to win that division.

The Eagles reportedly rang the Bills with the offer. The Bills rang back and accepted...20 minutes later!

Amazing stuff, really. Chip Kelly trading up for Mariota now, then, to get all his Ducks in a row?

[Ironside]

Wow

[TightEnd]

Eagles got rid of 3 of their top 4 salary cap hits for 2015 yesterday. Cleared $20M+ in cap space.

McCoy wasn't the apple of chips eye anyweay, declingin ypc and went away from him at the end of last season

they will go to spend big in free agency (byron maxwell?) to sort the secondary out then presumably trade a couple of years of drafts away to get Mariota

exciting big stuff.

for the Bills, really nice defense, but how do they get over 8-8/9-7 until they get a QB?

[Tal]

Eagles got rid of 3 of their top 4 salary cap hits for 2015 yesterday. Cleared $20M+ in cap space.

McCoy wasn't the apple of chips eye anyweay, declingin ypc and went away from him at the end of last season

they will go to spend big in free agency (byron maxwell?) to sort the secondary out then presumably trade a couple of years of drafts away to get Mariota

exciting big stuff.

for the Bills, really nice defense, but how do they get over 8-8/9-7 until they get a QB?

We don't. We need to find a nugget from somewhere in the next couple of years or bring in a competent free agent in the next year or two to do a job. For example, Brees the year after his $17m salary year would take $30m out of the Saints' salary cap. Maybe that's an extreme case, but it will be an interesting division once Brady retires.

[TightEnd]

The Saints are already looking to draft a QB. Brees simply too expensive and slightly on the decline

I reckon there are 9 teams who would love to upgrade their QB this offseason, only 2 in the draft worth picking high and not a lot in free agency

For the bills, the rest of the team is very competitive which means they won't be picking top 10 any time soon but because they are in QB hell they are a bit stuck getting over the hump and into the play offs, even if as a wild card

a shame because they spent 2 number 1s on Watkins and can't maximise him either

whats the word? Hoyer or someone like that for a season?

[Larry David]

That is the problem for 20+ teams in the league.  When was the last time a team won a superbowl with an average/rubbish QB?  Rarely happens,just shows how lucky New england have been all these years.  Take the bengals,probably as solid in every department as any team but as long as Andy Dalton is the QB you may as well throw in the towel once the regular season is over, too many mistakes over and over again, avoidable ones.  The texans looked on the brink a few years ago but they had another liability in Matt Schaub.  

[TightEnd]

That is the problem for 20+ teams in the league.  When was the last time a team won a superbowl with an average/rubbish QB?  Rarely happens,just shows how lucky New england have been all these years.  Take the bengals,probably as solid in every department as any team but as long as Andy Dalton is the QB you may as well throw in the towel once the regular season is over, too many mistakes over and over again, avoidable ones.  The texans looked on the brink a few years ago but they had another liability in Matt Schaub. 

correct

there aren't 32 starting quality QBs capable of winning in the league, let along 32+backups

for a cincinnati, houston, buffalo etc the rest of the rosters are good but they can't draft high enoguh to draft a franchise QB

2016 may see 5 or 6 of them, so maybe a chance then but in the absence of a year like that a lot of sides are in QB purgatory

this is part of the reason why i think the eagles may give away two ones, two twos and foles (cf the RG3 trade) and ring the jets up if mariota is still there at pick six this year

[Larry David]

Another problem you can face is the fact you can get one of these so called elite QBs in the draft but it isn't  a banker they are going to be a success, you just don't know.  You have to be very fortunate to get hold of a brady,rodgers type QB.  The colts are lucky having Manning all them years and replacing him with Andrew Luck who 99% of people knew he had what it takes.

[Tal]

That is the problem for 20+ teams in the league.  When was the last time a team won a superbowl with an average/rubbish QB?  Rarely happens,just shows how lucky New england have been all these years.  Take the bengals,probably as solid in every department as any team but as long as Andy Dalton is the QB you may as well throw in the towel once the regular season is over, too many mistakes over and over again, avoidable ones.  The texans looked on the brink a few years ago but they had another liability in Matt Schaub. 

correct

there aren't 32 starting quality QBs capable of winning in the league, let along 32+backups

for a cincinnati, houston, buffalo etc the rest of the rosters are good but they can't draft high enoguh to draft a franchise QB

2016 may see 5 or 6 of them, so maybe a chance then but in the absence of a year like that a lot of sides are in QB purgatory

this is part of the reason why i think the eagles may give away two ones, two twos and foles (cf the RG3 trade) and ring the jets up if mariota is still there at pick six this year

I can't help but think the Bills fans would just be grateful for the playoffs. Wilson at pick 75 shows there is talent available in some seasons (not this one, perhaps). Once you're on an upward curve (and it's been a long time since we have been able to say that), the prospect becomes more attractive.

If we end 2015/6 with everything but a QB, we will be in great shape! Jets will be Jets and Miami's skill position woes won't change in the next few years. It seems to me to be a year to get used to the Ryan/Roman system and then a year to gamble.

[Larry David]

All eagles fans in here?

< Packers.

[Tal]

All eagles fans in here?

< Packers.

Nope. Bills.

[Larry David]

They are getting there, lot of playmakers on Defence, so Kevin Cadle isn't the only Bills fan.