Ruling please

[Longines]

You know that feeling when you think the rest of the world has gone mad and you are the only sane one left? That was me yesterday.

Live NLHE comp at the Broadway, part of a poker forum weekender. Hand is pretty standard, heads up to the flop and I'm in position. I check call the flop, check call the turn and river goes check check. The other guy turns over the winner, I push my cards to the dealer face down.

At which point he turns them over as apparently the local rule is every hand that goes to showdown must be tabled. Floor called who confirmed the dealer was right.

Can someone please confirm this rule is barking?

[Tal]

Broadway is all hands at showdown. Has been for a while. It's very much to prevent collusion.

[pokerplayingfarmer]

It's very much house rules as far as that goes.  Grosvenor for example have made recent changes (in my local anyway - to bring it in line with gukpt rules we are told).  Now at showdown any player can muck be it first to act or last.  I don't mind this, sometimes if a bluff bet has been called and the aggressor knows he's beat because he's been called and wants to muck then fair enough, unless the calling player asks to see the cards.  Many people are objecting to it however on the grounds it makes collusion easier.

[Oxford_HRV]

Yeah this^
I've open mucked and pitched my cards into the muck pile before and got a stern warning. Its just a Broadway thing.

[Longines]

Fair enough. Just seemed more than a little out-of-place in a private comp where the level of seriousness being displayed including straddles, blind calls and 18k shoves into 3k pots*










* may all have been me actually

[FUN4FRASER]

Broadway is all hands at showdown. Has been for a while. It's very much to prevent collusion.

It seems a strange rule though and not generally in line with most other Casinos tournaments

I can understand it would make more sense in a satelite where there are so many seats guaranteed .it would stop the leader dumping to his mate but in a small local comp its  borderline pointless in my opinion

still house rules are rules as long as they make players aware

[tonytats]

Posted - 26 Apr 2015 :  09:52:40 AM 
Nah, I was only playing monsters so had raised to 8x with 82o and the SB thought KT suited was a good hand


Yup having to show 8 2 off early doors in a forum comp is a bit messy

[Longines]

 

Wasn't that hand though Tony - the one in question I'd called a 27x 3bet with 97s and called down on 9K64Q board.

[  ] was good.

[  ] was bothered about having my hand shown.

[Ironside]

it used to be pretty much standard everywhere to stop collusion but over past 5 or 6 years the rule has flipped pretty much everwhere

[jgcblack]

it used to be pretty much standard everywhere to stop collusion but over past 5 or 6 years the rule has flipped pretty much everwhere

They don't just do it in tournaments... first cash hand I had there I gave a short stack a spin with 45ss vs his pair and they insisted I turn my hand over.  I pointed out that I wouldn't have called had I known and that this 'faux protection' they think they are providing is lunacy as anyone wanting to chip dump or collude just has to make sure there is a single chip left behind.

I was 'wrong' as usual.