The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

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Dr Phillip Lee MP has just resigned from govt over Brexit - he says policy is 'detrimental' to the people and that govt has to protect its citzens from what the majority voted for

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Theresa May must take the blame for mayhem caused by her shambolic Brexit negotiations

The PM's Government failed both basic rules of negotiations, know what you want and do not enter talks unless you are prepared to walk away

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6505336/theresa-may-must-take-the-blame-for-mayhem-caused-by-her-shambolic-brexit-negotiations/

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The DCMS committee is NOT amused...

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"the meaningful vote"

PM conceded to rebels a vote after Nov 30 to approve her Brexit strategy if no deal agreed, but she has not yet conceded right for MPs to direct govt if no deal by February 15 when Brexit deadline looms.

Grieve says confident MPs will get a meaningful vote on deal and no deal.

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One big outcome from today’s circus = no deal Brexit just about dead.

Government compromise gives MPs power to veto it.

The threat of UK walking out of talks no longer serious (not that Brussels thought it was anyway). Rees Mogg & co truly on the back foot — how do they respond?

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With no deal virtually dead, UK’s negotiating leverage explicitly weakened, and fundamental problems yet to be resolved (Irish border), some kind of EEA-based arrangement will only get likelier.

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however then it got complicated

Did May have a stay of Brexecution or not?

Finally, after 2 hours of silence from No10, a statement: DexEU spokesman: "We have not, and will not, agree to the House of Commons binding the Government's hands in the negotiations".

Grieve et al thought the PM just had.

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Peston went into the details

The gap between what Tory rebel Remainers say may promised them today and what Davis says they were promised.

Government Brexit crisis may only have been delayed a few days

https://www.facebook.com/1498276767163730/posts/2071700713154663/ …

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another commentator summarised

Increasingly convinced that

1) UK's only leverage in Article 50 negotiations is threat of no deal
2) EU unconvinced the UK will ever walk out so UK unable to use this leverage
3) UK could only change that by actually walking out
4) UK won't do that
5) UK will accede to EU demands

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How can the hardliners avoid the drift to a soft Brexit?

https://www.facebook.com/MrJohnRentoul/posts/2069624150027396

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Anyone else completely confused now by these Commons votes and who is rebelling on what and why?

 Corbyn suffers biggest rebellion yet - 90 Labour MPs defy his 3 line whip on EEA (he ordered everyone to abstain~): 75 voted in favour of it, 15 voted against. That's more than a third of the entire prliamentary party.

6 Labour front benchers resigned. that makes 100 resignations since Corbyn started.

both major parties split

 

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Brexiteers alarmed that the PM has promised too much on meaningful vote.

"If Grieve et al are correct, the Brexiteers can't stomach it. It would be total abject surrender"

Full story and short analysis > https://news.sky.com/story/pm-risks-new-row-with-tory-brexit-rebels-after-downing-st-sows-confusion-11403791

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Does Theresa May have a Brexit strategy after all?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/theresa-may-won-vote-brexit-future-dominic-grieve-whips-rebellion-a8395181.html

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Bit early to get into the blame game, but maybe May's mistake was not to go for a customs union when Labour did

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/06/the-pressure-on-theresa-may-is-rising/

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Tory Brexit war is back on after 'sneaky' Theresa May goes back on agreement

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/theresa-may-brexit-amendment-dominic-grieve_uk_5b229cb0e4b0bbb7a0e5a9db