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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #17280 on: May 17, 2019, 06:26:42 PM »

Put Martin Lewis from Money Saving Expert on top of Remain Liberal & you have a serious force. (unlike anyone at LibDem/Change UK etc)

Martin Lewis always polls strongly. He's seen as being on side of the consumer, ordinary person, & is free of political baggage

In focus groups, people love him.

anyone got his number?

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Very good.   Think Martin Lewis blocked him due to all the love letters he sent.

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« Reply #17281 on: May 17, 2019, 06:35:23 PM »

camel bait to get him back!  Love it.  Martin Lewis for PM jesus.  He would want an asterik on top of every bill in the H of P to make sure he got his cut.
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« Reply #17282 on: May 18, 2019, 10:53:28 AM »

Tory leader contest

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1965: Reg Maudling (Heath)
1975: Willie Whitelaw (Thatcher)
1990: Michael Heseltine (Major)
1997: Ken Clarke (Hague)
2001: Portillo (IDS)
[2003 Howard coronation]
2005: David Davis (Cameron)
2016: Boris Johnson (May)
2019: Boris Johnson (?)
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« Reply #17283 on: May 18, 2019, 10:56:58 AM »

Boris Johnson and the Tory leadership

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just laugh out loud funny wherever you stand on it

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/17/tory-boris-johnson-leadership-candidate?CMP=share_btn_tw
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« Reply #17284 on: May 19, 2019, 09:46:58 AM »

The Conservatives are down to 9% in the new Euro election polling, fifth place

In a horrific, self inflicted spot

Brexiters in the Conservative right wing feel let down (despite the only reason we haven't left is the so called "Brexiters against the wrong Brexit" in parliament won't pass her deal, which at least gets them out to go further later) plus the blue rinses in the associations who could withstand no deal more than most, retired and index linked etc

One nation conservatives feel the thing should be stopped

So a horrible pincer movement

witness this today

Lord Heseltine says he will vote against the Conservative Party for the first time because it is "forcing through the biggest act of economic self-harm ever undertaken by a democratic government” - he'll vote Lib Dem in the European elections
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« Reply #17285 on: May 19, 2019, 10:04:48 AM »

Brexit Party in 2nd place in general election voting intention, ⁦Opinium Research⁩ for Observer
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« Reply #17286 on: May 19, 2019, 01:46:49 PM »

Brexit Party in 2nd place in general election voting intention, ⁦Opinium Research⁩ for Observer

Can we really take polls of this nature at face value? Farage’s Folly may, almost certainly will, do well in the EU election but to attempt to extrapolate how people feel about him and his ilk for this election into how they may vote in a GE seems to be stretching it.
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« Reply #17287 on: May 19, 2019, 03:20:50 PM »

Brexit Party in 2nd place in general election voting intention, ⁦Opinium Research⁩ for Observer

Can we really take polls of this nature at face value? Farage’s Folly may, almost certainly will, do well in the EU election but to attempt to extrapolate how people feel about him and his ilk for this election into how they may vote in a GE seems to be stretching it.

I think we can take it seriously if they morph into a legitimate right wing party, change name perhaps. There is no right wing option in the UK these days - there's the Tories and then a huge gap to the harder right nutjob parties.

I think Thatcher showed that there is an appetite for a right wing party and the Tories are pretty terrified of being called right wing these days . Many Tories would find a Brexit or otherly named party quite attractive I think, as well as quite a lot of traditional Labour who are not really left wing in the way it manifests today.
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« Reply #17288 on: May 19, 2019, 06:01:31 PM »

Brexit Party in 2nd place in general election voting intention, ⁦Opinium Research⁩ for Observer

Can we really take polls of this nature at face value? Farage’s Folly may, almost certainly will, do well in the EU election but to attempt to extrapolate how people feel about him and his ilk for this election into how they may vote in a GE seems to be stretching it.

They (UKIP) got the votes at the last GE - they don't have MPs cos, like the LibDems, they were robbed by our discredited electoral system. But you're right - that may happen again.
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« Reply #17289 on: May 20, 2019, 12:39:18 PM »


I would avoid clicking on the image. Timothy would like us to vote for Stephen Yaxley-Lennon

Beat me to it, it's SY-L/Tommy Robinson clickbait.

Well this is a thread about politics right? No doubt many of you have read the lies in the mainstream media about what happened on Saturday at political campaign. Here is the truth.

https://youtu.be/FrK0YbIAcl4

Given your allegiances, I think I'll choose to ignore the link.
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« Reply #17290 on: May 20, 2019, 03:49:56 PM »

Meanwhile away from extremist land

On the left: how people voted in GE2017. On the right: how they intend to vote in the EuropeanElections2019. Source: YouGov

these are fun

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« Reply #17291 on: May 20, 2019, 03:52:58 PM »

Tommy Robinson wouldn’t know truth if it threw a milkshake at him.

Did he hide in a tree like his mate in Liverpool?
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« Reply #17292 on: May 20, 2019, 03:57:00 PM »

Meanwhile away from extremist land

This suits my narrative, but i think its very interesting

"Beware the great betrayal myth. This debacle is the work of hard Brexiters"

We would be out now if they in parliament compromised on the purity of the brexit they wanted, and took the staging post on offer

an interesting read

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/29/brexit-betrayal-myth-hardcore-brexiters
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« Reply #17293 on: May 20, 2019, 03:57:56 PM »

and this is also excellent

"The Leave campaign’s promises were never deliverable by any prime minister."

which i think is correct.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/03/blaming-theresa-may-and-eu-delusional-brexit-defeating-itself
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« Reply #17294 on: May 20, 2019, 10:12:43 PM »

Thatcher doc tonight was pretty great.
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