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[TightEnd]

[TightEnd]

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[redsimon]

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fair enough. Number 4 tho I read he had reserved on an earlier train but got held up on urgent business in London and caught later train

[neeko]

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Re 11, I think trump screws his own campaign even more successfully

[neeko]

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Re 11, I think trump screws his own campaign even more successfully

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[rfgqqabc]

Would any taxpayer have a problem with paying for a first class seat so he can do some work on the journey? Some would consider the floor stunt work I guess.

[Doobs]

So he couldn't sit on the single seats because he wanted to talk with his wife/advisors?  So why was he filmed reading private eye by himself on the floor then? 

This was clearly a bad piece of spin, it took me all of 5 minutes to work that out the other day.  Why people are still defending it this morning is beyond me?  Why they put up somebody who is high up in Momentum on channel 4 news as some kind of "independent witness" is beyond me, and we get it spread round on twitter like it is definitive proof.  I don't know, we can look at the pictures or believe Jezza's mate?  Tough one.  As the Telegraph said today, "Corbyn doesn't offer any "new politics" just the same old politics but done so much more badly." 

I should just hide in a hole until he has gone.  Hopefully one of the few holes which doesn't have the standard "reserved for labour party heavyweights until this all blows over" tag. 

[Jon MW]

Would any taxpayer have a problem with paying for a first class seat so he can do some work on the journey? Some would consider the floor stunt work I guess.

It would be 100% appropriate for someone in his position to be travelling first class - if overcrowding is a problem then people who should be working on the train and can afford it don't go first class, it just makes it even more crowded for the rest of us who don't have that as an option.

[Cf]

Would any taxpayer have a problem with paying for a first class seat so he can do some work on the journey? Some would consider the floor stunt work I guess.

It would be 100% appropriate for someone in his position to be travelling first class - if overcrowding is a problem then people who should be working on the train and can afford it don't go first class, it just makes it even more crowded for the rest of us who don't have that as an option.

I don't buy that. Just because you can afford it doesn't mean you should pay for the higher option. If there's first class seats not in use and not enough standard class maybe there should be less first class seats in the first place?

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An independent Scotland would now be bankrupt http://specc.ie/2c6rSSZ

the story of Scotland's North Sea revenues.

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[DaveShoelace]

Would any taxpayer have a problem with paying for a first class seat so he can do some work on the journey? Some would consider the floor stunt work I guess.

I think this is the ideal reason why MPs should pay for a first class seat.

Earlier this month this story did the rounds http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-rides-night-bus-6175223

In hindsight it was probably all bollocks but there were loads of viral meme things going around about why this showed Jezza was honest and a man of the people and all that. All I saw was someone who wasn't prioritising the important things and was being unproductive. I don't want a potential PM getting the nightbus I want them getting a private car so they can either get more sleep if they need it or spend more time on important things (Cycling is ok because I want my elected leaders to be fit and healthy). Just as I want my elected leaders using computers and email, not a pen and carrier pigeon.

Obviously I get with Corbyn did what he did as it is good PR for him (until now) but I want a leader not a martyr.

[TightEnd]

It's the faux piety that makes it all so unbearable.

I wouldn't care - it was a failed political stunt - if we hadn't had such sickening sanctimony about his honesty and decency.

[DaveShoelace]

It's the faux piety that makes it all so unbearable.

I wouldn't care - it was a failed political stunt - if we hadn't had such sickening sanctimony about his honesty and decency.

David Cameron (allegedly) put his winky inside a pig's head and (arguably) had less heat than Corbyn, for this reason exactly.

Trump could probably set fire to an orphanage and we'd be over it in the morning.

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[rfgqqabc]

It's the faux piety that makes it all so unbearable.

I wouldn't care - it was a failed political stunt - if we hadn't had such sickening sanctimony about his honesty and decency.

It is making his views on the media look more accurate though. The nightbus thing I have some respect for, as unfortunately you just can't really give people the freedom with expenses as we have previously seen. Unfortunately, this turns this sort of unproductive martyr-ism into something that is actually admirable, which then in turn forces this sort of publicity stunt.

As for the genius tweeter above me, is it really unheard of for someone to swap seats? I don't believe train stops are the only possible reason someone would move, particularly if a friendly genetleman asked me if I would sit next to a random stranger so the Labour Party leader could sit next to his wife. In fact, I like to think I would always move in that circumstance, no matter who asked me. This issue is just absolute nonsense and no one is coming out of it with any dignity at all. T