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Question: How will you vote on June 8th 2017
Conservative - 29 (28.4%)
Labour - 36 (35.3%)
Lib Dem - 13 (12.7%)
UKIP - 1 (1%)
Green - 1 (1%)
Nationalist party eg SNP, Plaid - 7 (6.9%)
Don't intend to vote - 4 (3.9%)
I really don't know yet - 11 (10.8%)
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« Reply #12075 on: March 13, 2018, 04:08:06 PM »

OBR on Brexit - “we still have no meaningful basis for predicting a precise outcome” on Brexit, Government pointed it to Florence speech, assumes slower pace of import and export growth over decade
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« Reply #12076 on: March 13, 2018, 06:39:41 PM »

a good point by Cowling

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And probably the reason remain lost, insulting people tipped the balance away from them, you reap what you sow.....
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« Reply #12077 on: March 13, 2018, 07:15:28 PM »

a good point by Cowling

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And probably the reason remain lost, insulting people tipped the balance away from them, you reap what you sow.....

I guess he ignored a golden rule. Something being true doesn't by itself make it a sensible thing to say.
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« Reply #12078 on: March 13, 2018, 08:50:20 PM »

a good point by Cowling

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And probably the reason remain lost, insulting people tipped the balance away from them, you reap what you sow.....

I guess he ignored a golden rule. Something being true doesn't by itself make it a sensible thing to say.

It’s simpler than that, he was just being a condescending twat as many remainers were....
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« Reply #12079 on: March 13, 2018, 10:08:39 PM »

a good point by Cowling

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And probably the reason remain lost, insulting people tipped the balance away from them, you reap what you sow.....

I guess he ignored a golden rule. Something being true doesn't by itself make it a sensible thing to say.

It’s simpler than that, he was just being a condescending twat as many remainers were....

The remainers were insulting you? I am pretty sure the evidence points the other way.

I dare say insulting people made little difference originally, just can't see many people deciding to vote for something somebody else has labelled that the racist or the idiot's choice.  No advertising agency ever sold golliwogs by saying they were the choice of thick racists.

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« Reply #12080 on: March 13, 2018, 10:20:04 PM »

a good point by Cowling

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And probably the reason remain lost, insulting people tipped the balance away from them, you reap what you sow.....

I guess he ignored a golden rule. Something being true doesn't by itself make it a sensible thing to say.

It’s simpler than that, he was just being a condescending twat as many remainers were....

The remainers were insulting you? I am pretty sure the evidence points the other way.

I dare say insulting people made little difference originally, just can't see many people deciding to vote for something somebody else has labelled that the racist or the idiot's choice.  No advertising agency ever sold golliwogs by saying they were the choice of thick racists.



The political establishment basically got a kicking because they underestimated the public.

The “we know best” attitude came across as arrogance - if the remainers had run a better campaign they would have won the referendum, yet we still see the likes of Vince Cable just not getting it.
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« Reply #12081 on: March 13, 2018, 10:21:09 PM »

a good point by Cowling

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And probably the reason remain lost, insulting people tipped the balance away from them, you reap what you sow.....

I guess he ignored a golden rule. Something being true doesn't by itself make it a sensible thing to say.

It’s simpler than that, he was just being a condescending twat as many remainers were....

The remainers were insulting you? I am pretty sure the evidence points the other way.

I dare say insulting people made little difference originally, just can't see many people deciding to vote for something somebody else has labelled that the racist or the idiot's choice.  No advertising agency ever sold golliwogs by saying they were the choice of thick racists.

Bullshit, there was loads of people calling leavers thick racists etc and you know it.

I think the twatish behaviour just got people’s backs up and made a few extra people get up and vote that otherwise might not have been arsed. Could easily have been the difference that got leave over the line as it was so tight.
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« Reply #12082 on: March 13, 2018, 10:22:21 PM »

a good point by Cowling

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And probably the reason remain lost, insulting people tipped the balance away from them, you reap what you sow.....

I guess he ignored a golden rule. Something being true doesn't by itself make it a sensible thing to say.

It’s simpler than that, he was just being a condescending twat as many remainers were....

The remainers were insulting you? I am pretty sure the evidence points the other way.

I dare say insulting people made little difference originally, just can't see many people deciding to vote for something somebody else has labelled that the racist or the idiot's choice.  No advertising agency ever sold golliwogs by saying they were the choice of thick racists.



The political establishment basically got a kicking because they underestimated the public.

The “we know best” attitude came across as arrogance - if the remainers had run a better campaign they would have won the referendum, yet we still see the likes of Vince Cable just not getting it.

Yup, better campaign and less condescending twatishness and they would deffo have won.
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« Reply #12083 on: March 13, 2018, 11:12:24 PM »

a good point by Cowling

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And probably the reason remain lost, insulting people tipped the balance away from them, you reap what you sow.....

I guess he ignored a golden rule. Something being true doesn't by itself make it a sensible thing to say.

It’s simpler than that, he was just being a condescending twat as many remainers were....

The remainers were insulting you? I am pretty sure the evidence points the other way.

I dare say insulting people made little difference originally, just can't see many people deciding to vote for something somebody else has labelled that the racist or the idiot's choice.  No advertising agency ever sold golliwogs by saying they were the choice of thick racists.



The political establishment basically got a kicking because they underestimated the public.

The “we know best” attitude came across as arrogance - if the remainers had run a better campaign they would have won the referendum, yet we still see the likes of Vince Cable just not getting it.

Yup, better campaign and less condescending twatishness and they would deffo have won.

Cable:  "Too many older people who voted for Brexit were driven by nostalgia for a Britain when “passports were blue, faces were white and the map was coloured imperial pink”.".

Woodsey: "Twat, Twat, Twat and Twat"

So who is insulting who, and who just don't get it?  Sure Cable isn't following great strategy here, but he isn't calling those who voted the other way twats, you are.

I am sure the remainers could have run a better campaign too Wink
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« Reply #12084 on: March 13, 2018, 11:21:26 PM »

a good point by Cowling

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And probably the reason remain lost, insulting people tipped the balance away from them, you reap what you sow.....

I guess he ignored a golden rule. Something being true doesn't by itself make it a sensible thing to say.

It’s simpler than that, he was just being a condescending twat as many remainers were....

The remainers were insulting you? I am pretty sure the evidence points the other way.

I dare say insulting people made little difference originally, just can't see many people deciding to vote for something somebody else has labelled that the racist or the idiot's choice.  No advertising agency ever sold golliwogs by saying they were the choice of thick racists.



The political establishment basically got a kicking because they underestimated the public.

The “we know best” attitude came across as arrogance - if the remainers had run a better campaign they would have won the referendum, yet we still see the likes of Vince Cable just not getting it.

Yup, better campaign and less condescending twatishness and they would deffo have won.

Cable:  "Too many older people who voted for Brexit were driven by nostalgia for a Britain when “passports were blue, faces were white and the map was coloured imperial pink”.".

Woodsey: "Twat, Twat, Twat and Twat"

So who is insulting who, and who just don't get it?  Sure Cable isn't following great strategy here, but he isn't calling those who voted the other way twats, you are.

I am sure the remainers could have run a better campaign too Wink

Yes, but it didn’t cost me any vote, there’s a reasonable chance it cost the remoaners their victory in the referendum and they still haven’t learned their lesson. Give me another 10 years of pointing out twatish behaviour and I still won’t even be close to even with the barrage of insults that was thrown leavers way....

And no I’m not calling people who voted the other way twats, That’s reserved for people who threw out all the insults to leavers..
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« Reply #12085 on: March 15, 2018, 10:27:03 AM »

Corbyn on Russia failed to impress Con or Lab MPs – but public might see it differently:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-russia-position-conservatives-labour-mps-unimpressed-public-opinon-a8255301.html
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« Reply #12086 on: March 15, 2018, 10:28:34 AM »

Analysis: is the Salisbury nerve agent attack Theresa May's 'Falklands' Moment?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/salisbury-nerve-agent-attack-have-the-russian-spy-expulsions-given-theresa-may-her-falklands-moment_uk_5aa970c4e4b0600b82ff9012
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« Reply #12087 on: March 15, 2018, 10:30:53 AM »

Jeremy Corbyn's Russia stance has reopened Labour's wounds

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/03/jeremy-corbyns-russia-stance-has-reopened-labours-wounds
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« Reply #12088 on: March 15, 2018, 10:32:49 AM »

Cold War 2.0 - Tremendously authoritative piece on Russia, Britain, the Salisbury poisoning and our new age of world disorder

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/03/putin-s-new-cold-war
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« Reply #12089 on: March 15, 2018, 10:50:02 AM »

Yesterday showed yet again what a prize plum Corbyn is. Thoroughly unsuitable for PM. Carry on as Labour leader for as long as you like Jeremy, I'm your biggest fan.
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