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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
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« Reply #13935 on: September 14, 2018, 03:54:12 PM »

Hey Tighty I'm a little concerned you're just parroting what's in the press.

Just be careful mate because if cuckoo turns up after a couple of cans of stella you might get it in the neck.
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« Reply #13936 on: September 14, 2018, 04:25:42 PM »

Hey Tighty I'm a little concerned you're just parroting what's in the press.

Just be careful mate because if cuckoo turns up after a couple of cans of stella you might get it in the neck.

 
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« Reply #13937 on: September 14, 2018, 04:34:54 PM »

Hey Tighty I'm a little concerned you're just parroting what's in the press.

Just be careful mate because if cuckoo turns up after a couple of cans of stella you might get it in the neck.

 

I think linking news and paraphrasing (parrotphrasing sic) the gutter is quite different. Plus I’m back in training for a 10k on Oct 16th, no Stella fuelled rants before then.
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« Reply #13938 on: September 14, 2018, 04:37:56 PM »

Hey Tighty I'm a little concerned you're just parroting what's in the press.

Just be careful mate because if cuckoo turns up after a couple of cans of stella you might get it in the neck.

i have been linking articles since may 14th 2015. 930 pages later, it hasn't done too badly for a mostly sensible conversation

i can stop easily enough if its only for benefit. Probably be better for my mental health
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« Reply #13939 on: September 14, 2018, 04:43:58 PM »

Hey Tighty I'm a little concerned you're just parroting what's in the press.

Just be careful mate because if cuckoo turns up after a couple of cans of stella you might get it in the neck.

i have been linking articles since may 14th 2015. 930 pages later, it hasn't done too badly for a mostly sensible conversation

i can stop easily enough if its only for benefit. Probably be better for my mental health

Please don't stop Tighty! So many great articles I wouldn't see otherwise.

P.s. I don't have any tinned peaches

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« Reply #13940 on: September 14, 2018, 04:45:30 PM »

Hey Tighty I'm a little concerned you're just parroting what's in the press.

Just be careful mate because if cuckoo turns up after a couple of cans of stella you might get it in the neck.

i have been linking articles since may 14th 2015. 930 pages later, it hasn't done too badly for a mostly sensible conversation

i can stop easily enough if its only for benefit. Probably be better for my mental health


Don't stop Rich, this this thread is the first one I open.

Well sometimes I open the The Next President of the United States thread first but I love both equally.

Remember when we had to rely on tikay's diary for our news? Don't send us back there.
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« Reply #13941 on: September 14, 2018, 06:49:16 PM »

Raab is simply posturing during negotiations. As Barnier and all the scaremongers have been doing throughout. I think there’s a moral hazard in scaring people to buy peaches really.

In terms of future deals and unions I wonder how the EU have come across during this period. Leave us and we’ll say we don’t trust you, play hardball, confront, reprimand and sabotage economies. If one of our member states like Ireland gets caught up in the fall out well we’ll basically just fuck them off and leave them out there in the cold. Seems like an awesome union doesn’t it.

Given how they treated Greece, I would say they are treating us with kid gloves.
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« Reply #13942 on: September 14, 2018, 08:01:38 PM »

Barnier has been pushing the limits in the last week or so.

Raab is responding in kind. Frankly, so he should. The comment on here about Barnier being a wanker is spot on.

If EU want to play hard ball then we have to make it clear we are only going to pay the very least we have to as part of our legal responsibilities.

Its all posturing and playing to the audience rather than anything particularly meaningful.

The proof of the pudding will be in the eating. Lets hope it doesn't involve fucking peaches  Cheesy
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« Reply #13943 on: September 14, 2018, 10:29:43 PM »

Obvs no-one will watch this - so refreshing to see the style and class of this debate from 1975 - compared with the soundbitey twats that pass for MPs (large generalisation) thesedays. Oh for the days of cask aleand tankards

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« Reply #13944 on: September 15, 2018, 07:59:04 AM »

Obvs no-one will watch this - so refreshing to see the style and class of this debate from 1975 - compared with the soundbitey twats that pass for MPs (large generalisation) thesedays. Oh for the days of cask aleand tankards




Proper, reasoned, courteous debate.
Every politician in the country should be compelled to watch it.

Micheal Foot at his best, and expressing views about the EU that are as valid today as they were then.
Edward Heath making his case in a reasoned way, but clearly as wrong then as he would be today.

I can’t think of a current labour politician that is fit to button Foot’s donkey jacket. Jeremy Corbyn isn’t fit to be the chewing gum on the sole of his shoes.
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« Reply #13945 on: September 15, 2018, 08:47:48 AM »

Obvs no-one will watch this - so refreshing to see the style and class of this debate from 1975 - compared with the soundbitey twats that pass for MPs (large generalisation) thesedays. Oh for the days of cask aleand tankards




Proper, reasoned, courteous debate.
Every politician in the country should be compelled to watch it.

Micheal Foot at his best, and expressing views about the EU that are as valid today as they were then.
Edward Heath making his case in a reasoned way, but clearly as wrong then as he would be today.

I can’t think of a current labour politician that is fit to button Foot’s donkey jacket. Jeremy Corbyn isn’t fit to be the chewing gum on the sole of his shoes.

It would be interesting to know if you were such a big Foot fanboy in 1983 and if you were such a big Foot fan boy when he talked about anything other than membership of the Common Market/EU.
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« Reply #13946 on: September 15, 2018, 10:03:07 AM »

Wonder what these guys would've made of flying a big orange US president baby balloon outside parliament
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« Reply #13947 on: September 15, 2018, 11:09:44 AM »

Obvs no-one will watch this - so refreshing to see the style and class of this debate from 1975 - compared with the soundbitey twats that pass for MPs (large generalisation) thesedays. Oh for the days of cask aleand tankards




Proper, reasoned, courteous debate.
Every politician in the country should be compelled to watch it.

Micheal Foot at his best, and expressing views about the EU that are as valid today as they were then.
Edward Heath making his case in a reasoned way, but clearly as wrong then as he would be today.

I can’t think of a current labour politician that is fit to button Foot’s donkey jacket. Jeremy Corbyn isn’t fit to be the chewing gum on the sole of his shoes.

And in as spooky piece of timing, today's front page splash headline in The Times is......

"MI6 believed Michael Foot was a paid Soviet informant

Truth about former Labour leader emerges 23 years after he sued Sunday Times for libel."
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« Reply #13948 on: September 15, 2018, 02:59:06 PM »

Obvs no-one will watch this - so refreshing to see the style and class of this debate from 1975 - compared with the soundbitey twats that pass for MPs (large generalisation) thesedays. Oh for the days of cask aleand tankards




Proper, reasoned, courteous debate.
Every politician in the country should be compelled to watch it.

Micheal Foot at his best, and expressing views about the EU that are as valid today as they were then.
Edward Heath making his case in a reasoned way, but clearly as wrong then as he would be today.

I can’t think of a current labour politician that is fit to button Foot’s donkey jacket. Jeremy Corbyn isn’t fit to be the chewing gum on the sole of his shoes.

And in as spooky piece of timing, today's front page splash headline in The Times is......

"MI6 believed Michael Foot was a paid Soviet informant

Truth about former Labour leader emerges 23 years after he sued Sunday Times for libel."

No bias in their then

This para from the BBC what the papers say page says more than enough about the story


British intelligence services believed former Labour leader Michael Foot had been a KGB informant at the height of the Cold War, the Times reports. A book by Times columnist Ben Macintyre, which is being serialised in the paper, claims Soviet defector Oleg Gordievsky told MI6 that Mr Foot had received clandestine payments from the KGB, which classed him as an agent. Mr Foot successfully sued the Times in the 90s after it published similar claims.

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« Reply #13949 on: September 15, 2018, 03:04:41 PM »

Obvs no-one will watch this - so refreshing to see the style and class of this debate from 1975 - compared with the soundbitey twats that pass for MPs (large generalisation) thesedays. Oh for the days of cask aleand tankards




Proper, reasoned, courteous debate.
Every politician in the country should be compelled to watch it.

Micheal Foot at his best, and expressing views about the EU that are as valid today as they were then.
Edward Heath making his case in a reasoned way, but clearly as wrong then as he would be today.

I can’t think of a current labour politician that is fit to button Foot’s donkey jacket. Jeremy Corbyn isn’t fit to be the chewing gum on the sole of his shoes.

It would be interesting to know if you were such a big Foot fanboy in 1983 and if you were such a big Foot fan boy when he talked about anything other than membership of the Common Market/EU.

No, I wasn’t a massive Foot fan boy in 1983, but I still had respect for his intellect and his principles. There are many socialist MPs/politicians who warrant our respect. Foot, Barbara Xastle, Benn snr and jnr, Skinner, John Smith to name a few.

I’m not a fan of many in the current batch from either side (if there are still discernible sides).

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