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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
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« Reply #15765 on: December 16, 2018, 09:56:52 PM »

My news feed is getting bombarded by the French government encouraging British businesses to move to Northern France because of Brexit. Macron has been courting major corporations based in Britain.

“Come to Northern France your gateway to Europe”

The cowardly custards who don’t think this is war need to start waking up and stop whimpering about being offended

Not trying to offend but cuckoo would be shot by his superior officer very early in any war. Probably for making daisy chains in the trenches or suchlike.

I don’t think people are saying they’re offended (I’m not), I’m just saying you’re a clueless and ignorant prick.
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« Reply #15766 on: December 16, 2018, 10:01:33 PM »

My news feed is getting bombarded by the French government encouraging British businesses to move to Northern France because of Brexit. Macron has been courting major corporations based in Britain.

“Come to Northern France your gateway to Europe”

The cowardly custards who don’t think this is war need to start waking up and stop whimpering about being offended

Not trying to offend but cuckoo would be shot by his superior officer very early in any war. Probably for making daisy chains in the trenches or suchlike.

I don’t think people are saying they’re offended (I’m not), I’m just saying you’re a clueless and ignorant prick.

Aha the famous anger-less rant where my valueless posts have no effect.
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« Reply #15767 on: December 16, 2018, 10:06:09 PM »

My news feed is getting bombarded by the French government encouraging British businesses to move to Northern France because of Brexit. Macron has been courting major corporations based in Britain.

“Come to Northern France your gateway to Europe”

The cowardly custards who don’t think this is war need to start waking up and stop whimpering about being offended

Not trying to offend but cuckoo would be shot by his superior officer very early in any war. Probably for making daisy chains in the trenches or suchlike.

I don’t think people are saying they’re offended (I’m not), I’m just saying you’re a clueless and ignorant prick.

Aha the famous anger-less rant where my valueless posts have no effect.

There’s no anger in pointing out that you’re a prick. You must know it yourself really, so it’s probably redundant for me to keep pointing it out, it’s not angry in any way though.
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« Reply #15768 on: December 16, 2018, 10:11:29 PM »

My news feed is getting bombarded by the French government encouraging British businesses to move to Northern France because of Brexit. Macron has been courting major corporations based in Britain.

“Come to Northern France your gateway to Europe”

The cowardly custards who don’t think this is war need to start waking up and stop whimpering about being offended

Not trying to offend but cuckoo would be shot by his superior officer very early in any war. Probably for making daisy chains in the trenches or suchlike.

I don’t think people are saying they’re offended (I’m not), I’m just saying you’re a clueless and ignorant prick.

Aha the famous anger-less rant where my valueless posts have no effect.

There’s no anger in pointing out that you’re a prick. You must know it yourself really, so it’s probably redundant for me to keep pointing it out, it’s not angry in any way though.

100% angry 

Don’t even bother denying it, you know it and we all know it 
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« Reply #15769 on: December 16, 2018, 10:15:02 PM »

My news feed is getting bombarded by the French government encouraging British businesses to move to Northern France because of Brexit. Macron has been courting major corporations based in Britain.

“Come to Northern France your gateway to Europe”

The cowardly custards who don’t think this is war need to start waking up and stop whimpering about being offended

Not trying to offend but cuckoo would be shot by his superior officer very early in any war. Probably for making daisy chains in the trenches or suchlike.

I don’t think people are saying they’re offended (I’m not), I’m just saying you’re a clueless and ignorant prick.

Aha the famous anger-less rant where my valueless posts have no effect.

There’s no anger in pointing out that you’re a prick. You must know it yourself really, so it’s probably redundant for me to keep pointing it out, it’s not angry in any way though.

100% angry  

Don’t even bother denying it, you know it and we all know it  

Lol crying
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« Reply #15770 on: December 16, 2018, 10:39:07 PM »

People should try behaving like this - I've posted bits from Rory Stewart before - whether you share his politics or not, this is the level and tone of how discussion should be on a subject like this - I really find James O'Brien really difficult to listen to (so don't normally) but in this he makes his standard points but in a much more reasonable way since Rory stewart is fundamentally decent and as honest as any politician can be



Just watching this after seeing that other clip. He does come across very well, and seems able to see things from both sides of the table.

Any reason he's not well known? Is it just a case of him not being a shithouse that would sell his grandmother to get ahead, like Boris?
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« Reply #15771 on: December 16, 2018, 10:51:27 PM »


I don’t think people are saying they’re offended (I’m not), I’m just saying you’re a clueless and ignorant prick.

This is your idea of debating is it?

Right here is where you lose all credibility.

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« Reply #15772 on: December 16, 2018, 11:27:03 PM »

Blonde hasn’t been this busy since 2011.

I’m obviously going to take all credit.
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« Reply #15773 on: December 17, 2018, 06:16:48 AM »


I don’t think people are saying they’re offended (I’m not), I’m just saying you’re a clueless and ignorant prick.

This is your idea of debating is it?

Right here is where you lose all credibility.


Good morning

I’d respectfully disagree about the impact on my credibility. It’s not my idea of debating but Mantis’s endless stream of idiocy, was never anything to do with debate. I’d request that my view of the endless nonsense/trolling is viewed separately to my contirbution to the debate.
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« Reply #15774 on: December 17, 2018, 07:12:52 AM »


I don’t think people are saying they’re offended (I’m not), I’m just saying you’re a clueless and ignorant prick.

This is your idea of debating is it?

Right here is where you lose all credibility.


Good morning

I’d respectfully disagree about the impact on my credibility. It’s not my idea of debating but Mantis’s endless stream of idiocy, was never anything to do with debate. I’d request that my view of the endless nonsense/trolling is viewed separately to my contirbution to the debate.

I think the issue is that you are reading stuff from Mantis and assuming that those are his genuine views.
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« Reply #15775 on: December 17, 2018, 07:17:24 AM »


I don’t think people are saying they’re offended (I’m not), I’m just saying you’re a clueless and ignorant prick.

This is your idea of debating is it?

Right here is where you lose all credibility.


Good morning

I’d respectfully disagree about the impact on my credibility. It’s not my idea of debating but Mantis’s endless stream of idiocy, was never anything to do with debate. I’d request that my view of the endless nonsense/trolling is viewed separately to my contirbution to the debate.

I think the issue is that you are reading stuff from Mantis and assuming that those are his genuine views.

It’s more the whole misinformation thing. If I was confident everyone reading knew how ridiculous nearly everything he writes is, I’d just ignore it.
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« Reply #15776 on: December 17, 2018, 08:01:43 AM »

People should try behaving like this - I've posted bits from Rory Stewart before - whether you share his politics or not, this is the level and tone of how discussion should be on a subject like this - I really find James O'Brien really difficult to listen to (so don't normally) but in this he makes his standard points but in a much more reasonable way since Rory stewart is fundamentally decent and as honest as any politician can be



Just watching this after seeing that other clip. He does come across very well, and seems able to see things from both sides of the table.

Any reason he's not well known? Is it just a case of him not being a shithouse that would sell his grandmother to get ahead, like Boris?

Listened to the opening. Will stick the rest on at work today. I guess he's not news as it's known today. Not much of a market for long stuff in the MSM is there. Rather than listen to this or someone like Ivan Rogers (the link tightly posted the other day) . The main new channels think we want to watch 5.mins of Campbell and Farage shouting at each other
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« Reply #15777 on: December 17, 2018, 08:10:01 AM »

Blonde hasn’t been this busy since 2011.

I’m obviously going to take all credit.

Good to see you back on here Aaron with your shy, modest posting style :-)

It’s about time you were back in Genting, I think Barry Neville is really missing you. Not still upset with Ashley? Life’s too short.
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« Reply #15778 on: December 17, 2018, 09:15:54 AM »


I don’t think people are saying they’re offended (I’m not), I’m just saying you’re a clueless and ignorant prick.

This is your idea of debating is it?

Right here is where you lose all credibility.


Good morning

I’d respectfully disagree about the impact on my credibility. It’s not my idea of debating but Mantis’s endless stream of idiocy, was never anything to do with debate. I’d request that my view of the endless nonsense/trolling is viewed separately to my contirbution to the debate.

I think the issue is that you are reading stuff from Mantis and assuming that those are his genuine views.

It’s more the whole misinformation thing. If I was confident everyone reading knew how ridiculous nearly everything he writes is, I’d just ignore it.

That’s called nannying which is what you lefties do best

I on the other hand have supreme confidence people are capable of making their own minds up
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« Reply #15779 on: December 17, 2018, 09:43:03 AM »


 This week's big idea from some cabinet ministers:

 Free votes for MP's.....the most hands in the air wins. Simple.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/17/mps-brexit-deadlock-vote-greg-clark-parliament
 
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