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Question: How will you vote on June 8th 2017
Conservative - 29 (27.9%)
Labour - 37 (35.6%)
Lib Dem - 13 (12.5%)
UKIP - 1 (1%)
Green - 1 (1%)
Nationalist party eg SNP, Plaid - 8 (7.7%)
Don't intend to vote - 4 (3.8%)
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« Reply #17265 on: May 16, 2019, 02:31:17 PM »

Another paradox

Attempts to smear The Brexit Party as "far right" and the "gotcha" focus on Farage's record are simply not going to dent the party's support, because what drives it is a singular concern for democracy, not agreement with Farage's personal views.

but

No Deal Brexit - which is the Brexit party’s only policy - has no democratic mandate and is the least popular option with the electorate in a wide range of polling.

It would imperil the Good Friday Agreement, which won an overwhelming democratic mandate.


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« Reply #17266 on: May 16, 2019, 02:33:16 PM »

If "no deal" was an option in 2016 as some claim (it wasn't), why did it not become a recognised Google search term until 2018?

in fact none of the 'no deal' 'WTO' brexit terms appeared until the end of 2018.

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« Reply #17267 on: May 16, 2019, 03:15:44 PM »

As Boris announces he is standing next time

the implication of the agreement btw Brady + May - if 2nd reading passes, PM stays on to fight next stages through Commons, in hope that we leave EU before recess,

if it fails, which at this stage is a LOT more likely, she's gone, contest over summer, new PM at Tory conf

according to laurak

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so

1  We can waste the entirety of the Article 50 extension on a Tory bloodbath and then come up smiling in October to ask for another one. Good times.

2 The Tory bloodbath will be a competition to see who can sound toughest on Brexit for the membership. They'll then become leader, face the same choice May did, and buckle in the same way. And then we can begin again.

3 (i think as times goes on its looks less and less likely we leave)
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« Reply #17268 on: May 16, 2019, 04:43:24 PM »

interesting chart seen this week

 - over last 50 years we have become gone from most incomes fairly similar to being richer much more varied - less homogenous. Harder to govern. Society with indivuduals with less in comon than previously
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« Reply #17269 on: May 16, 2019, 06:10:31 PM »

As Boris announces he is standing next time

the implication of the agreement btw Brady + May - if 2nd reading passes, PM stays on to fight next stages through Commons, in hope that we leave EU before recess,

if it fails, which at this stage is a LOT more likely, she's gone, contest over summer, new PM at Tory conf

according to laurak

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so

1  We can waste the entirety of the Article 50 extension on a Tory bloodbath and then come up smiling in October to ask for another one. Good times.

2 The Tory bloodbath will be a competition to see who can sound toughest on Brexit for the membership. They'll then become leader, face the same choice May did, and buckle in the same way. And then we can begin again.

3 (i think as times goes on its looks less and less likely we leave)

One ridiculous aspect of not leaving will be the prospect of a reasonably high number of Brexit Party MEPs enjoying the gravy in Brussels while not having to contribute anything of any value at all. Just stand up and shout bollocks now and then - pretty toasty life
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« Reply #17270 on: May 16, 2019, 06:20:37 PM »

As Boris announces he is standing next time

the implication of the agreement btw Brady + May - if 2nd reading passes, PM stays on to fight next stages through Commons, in hope that we leave EU before recess,

if it fails, which at this stage is a LOT more likely, she's gone, contest over summer, new PM at Tory conf

according to laurak

--

so

1  We can waste the entirety of the Article 50 extension on a Tory bloodbath and then come up smiling in October to ask for another one. Good times.

2 The Tory bloodbath will be a competition to see who can sound toughest on Brexit for the membership. They'll then become leader, face the same choice May did, and buckle in the same way. And then we can begin again.

3 (i think as times goes on its looks less and less likely we leave)

One ridiculous aspect of not leaving will be the prospect of a reasonably high number of Brexit Party MEPs enjoying the gravy in Brussels while not having to contribute anything of any value at all. Just stand up and shout bollocks now and then - pretty toasty life

Isn't that what our lot do over here anyway?
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« Reply #17271 on: May 16, 2019, 07:54:33 PM »

It's a tough life.

Big Channel 4 story - Arron Banks allegedly gave Nigel Farage nearly half a million quid to pay for a house in Chelsea, furniture, a car with a driver, and lavish trips to the US https://t.co/blHkdh6g1b
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« Reply #17272 on: May 16, 2019, 08:10:05 PM »

Brexit political mess a 'crushing disaster' for UK business – CBI chief https://t.co/fLRgCJ1lpW

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« Reply #17273 on: May 16, 2019, 08:56:20 PM »

 3 months ago you could have got 250/1 on Farage being the next PM.

 Even 4 weeks ago he was 100/1.

Today he's as low as 12/1.  Shocked

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« Reply #17274 on: May 16, 2019, 09:23:03 PM »

3 months ago you could have got 250/1 on Farage being the next PM.

 Even 4 weeks ago he was 100/1.

Today he's as low as 12/1.  Shocked

#brexitfunandgames

That's the layiest of lays isn't it?

Where are they getting 300 MPs from?
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« Reply #17275 on: May 16, 2019, 09:31:26 PM »

3 months ago you could have got 250/1 on Farage being the next PM.

 Even 4 weeks ago he was 100/1.

Today he's as low as 12/1.  Shocked

#brexitfunandgames

That's the layiest of lays isn't it?

Where are they getting 300 MPs from?

12/1 he joins the tories!  His ego couldn't turn down the invite to be PM if the desperate tory mp's felt it would help them keep their job.
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« Reply #17276 on: May 16, 2019, 09:36:58 PM »

3 months ago you could have got 250/1 on Farage being the next PM.

 Even 4 weeks ago he was 100/1.

Today he's as low as 12/1.  Shocked

#brexitfunandgames

That's the layiest of lays isn't it?

Where are they getting 300 MPs from?

12/1 he joins the tories!  His ego couldn't turn down the invite to be PM if the desperate tory mp's felt it would help them keep their job.

Would take him over that prick JC!
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« Reply #17277 on: May 17, 2019, 10:14:15 AM »





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« Reply #17278 on: May 17, 2019, 10:27:30 AM »


I would avoid clicking on the image. Timothy would like us to vote for Stephen Yaxley-Lennon
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« Reply #17279 on: May 17, 2019, 10:28:05 AM »

Meanwhile, back in the real world

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European election voting intention @YouGov 12-16 May
Brexit Party 35% +5
Lib Dem 16% +4
Lab 15% -9
Green 10% +4
Con 9% -3
Change UK 5% +1
UKIP 3% -1
(Change since 8-9 May)
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/05/16/labour-and-tories-lose-majority-support-brexit-pro

Con and Lab 24% combined!
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