The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

Anyone looking for an injection of optimism should go and buy themselves a copy of today’s Telegraph.

It's good. they've just got his column off the payroll too :-)

10 hours a month, 1100 words per column, £2291 per hour

Hes earned £2.75m for the column (gross) whilst an MP

Good writer too, it has to be said.

Able of doing a remain and a leave column pre-referendum and make both sound convincing.

Yes, 'n' how many times can a man turn his head
And pretend that he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind

[nirvana]

Jo Swinson already undoing all the work done by Cable. She’s called for a no confidence and it’s so utterly stupid and immature. Already get the feeling that the voters Lib Dem’s might come close to picking up might get disillusioned by her.

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All the good work done by Cable? He completely dropped the ball.

Swinson will be hugely popular once the remain part of the voter base gets to know her

The call for no confidence is entirely sensible (improbable right now of course) as it once again highlights Corbyn's vacillation.

Corbyn a) wants Brexit and b) wants to own none of it, so won't do it until later in the year. Of course as we have seen in the recent elections a strategy of fence sitting means no one knows what the party's policy is, still

Another reason why an early election must appeal to Johnson

She's terrible. An inflatable balloon even with a whiny voice would appeal to the remainiacs

really?

I think she has got a lot of potential.

You might be right about potential and she's a better bet than Davey for the LDs. Right now though I probably see her thru the Brexit lens and in light of her participation in the coalition. Makes the LDs come over to me as party of cry speakers railing against Brexit (a temporary thing) and bandwagoners of any climate change virtue signalling up for grabs but without any convictions about much else. Mainly just her voice and style though

[Pokerpops]

Anyone looking for an injection of optimism should go and buy themselves a copy of today’s Telegraph.

It's good. they've just got his column off the payroll too :-)

10 hours a month, 1100 words per column, £2291 per hour

Hes earned £2.75m for the column (gross) whilst an MP

Good writer too, it has to be said.

Able of doing a remain and a leave column pre-referendum and make both sound convincing.

Yes, 'n' how many times can a man turn his head
And pretend that he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind

He was, at least, able to make a final decision based on proper consideration of the issues. He was also prepared to stand up and be counted in his support for it. Compare and contrast with Corbyn who is still blowin’ in the wind.

The times, they are a changing.

[kukushkin88]

Anyone looking for an injection of optimism should go and buy themselves a copy of today’s Telegraph.

It's good. they've just got his column off the payroll too :-)

10 hours a month, 1100 words per column, £2291 per hour

Hes earned £2.75m for the column (gross) whilst an MP

Good writer too, it has to be said.

Able of doing a remain and a leave column pre-referendum and make both sound convincing.

Yes, 'n' how many times can a man turn his head
And pretend that he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind

He was, at least, able to make a final decision based on proper consideration of the issues. He was also prepared to stand up and be counted in his support for it. Compare and contrast with Corbyn who is still blowin’ in the wind.

The times, they are a changing.

Corbyn couldn’t have been worse on Brexit... but “final decision based on proper consideration of the issues”. Nearly every reason he’s given for leaving the EU is fantasy or demonstrably untrue. The border, the bus, the kipper, doesn’t understand GATT etc.

[RED-DOG]

Anyone looking for an injection of optimism should go and buy themselves a copy of today’s Telegraph.

It's good. they've just got his column off the payroll too :-)

10 hours a month, 1100 words per column, £2291 per hour

Hes earned £2.75m for the column (gross) whilst an MP

Good writer too, it has to be said.

Able of doing a remain and a leave column pre-referendum and make both sound convincing.

Yes, 'n' how many times can a man turn his head
And pretend that he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind

He was, at least, able to make a final decision based on proper consideration of the issues. He was also prepared to stand up and be counted in his support for it. Compare and contrast with Corbyn who is still blowin’ in the wind.

The times, they are a changing.

The only thing Boris gives proper consideration to is Boris.


Gotta serve somebody.

[MANTIS01]

Think Swinson is tez also

Looks like a mature student, prob studying geography or social science, all baggy cardigans and flip flops

[kukushkin88]

Think Swinson is tez also

Looks like a mature student, prob studying geography or social science, all baggy cardigans and flip flops

The strategy is almost admirable really, as long as everything is always ridiculous, then even Boris can be PM.

Having accepted that we’ll have to go back to go forward, I’m very pleased to have him in charge atm.

[kukushkin88]

Anyone looking for an injection of optimism should go and buy themselves a copy of today’s Telegraph.

It's good. they've just got his column off the payroll too :-)

10 hours a month, 1100 words per column, £2291 per hour

Hes earned £2.75m for the column (gross) whilst an MP

Good writer too, it has to be said.

Able of doing a remain and a leave column pre-referendum and make both sound convincing.

Yes, 'n' how many times can a man turn his head
And pretend that he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind

He was, at least, able to make a final decision based on proper consideration of the issues. He was also prepared to stand up and be counted in his support for it. Compare and contrast with Corbyn who is still blowin’ in the wind.

The times, they are a changing.

Corbyn couldn’t have been worse on Brexit... but “final decision based on proper consideration of the issues”. Nearly every reason he’s given for leaving the EU is fantasy or demonstrably untrue. The border, the bus, the kipper, doesn’t understand GATT etc.

Just to test (trying not to be a dick) Can we think of a single true or potentially true thing Boris has said about why leaving the E.U is a good idea?

[RickBFA]

I’d like to see the next GE intention voting polls before we get carried away with the influence of the Lib Dem’s.

Let’s see how many voters they pick up and how many the Tories pick up from Brexit Party now.

[aaron1867]

Aaron think tactics please

she can't call a no conf vote, Corbyn can. By telling him to, when he doesn't it plays to the remain base. 

With a soon to be majority of 1, a no confidence vote certainly has a shot probably in the autumn. See what the Tory remainers do, they obviously would be voting themselves out of jobs in some cases but the anti no-deal principles are strong

For the period 2016-mid 19 Cable cannot be said to have capitalised on the 48% remain vote, united it or really made any progress right? When it came to the Euro elections (after he had confirmed his resignation and with LD leadership vote about to start) the LD vote was "can't vote for Corbyn" not "must vote for Cable". Yes?

You say think tactics, but it would be like Shane Long on to score you the winner, it’s never going to happen

There has to be some maturity and sensibleness in all of this and not to call the vote straight away, you can’t win it. Then lose it and come back again. In a few months her and Corbyn will be able to push that vote and win it.

She was also on Newsnight other night talking nonsense - saying they wouldn’t work with labour or do deals or coalition, they simply have to. It’s jist silly. I have gone from voting Labour to LD, but now have been completely put off by her

As for cable, up in the polls, seats in the E.U., all done quietly and confidently

[TightEnd]

Shane Long has scored 112 career goals, 59 of them in the Premier League, 21 of those have been winning goals

A very odd, and entirely wrong, analogy indeed.

[horseplayer]

Shane Long is awful

has scored 10 goals in his last 90 appearances in the premier league (3 seasons)

so it is a perfect analogy

[MANTIS01]

Think Swinson is tez also

Looks like a mature student, prob studying geography or social science, all baggy cardigans and flip flops

The strategy is almost admirable really, as long as everything is always ridiculous, then even Boris can be PM.

Having accepted that we’ll have to go back to go forward, I’m very pleased to have him in charge atm.

I would add that she looks like a roll-on deodorant type as opposed to aerosol, potentially no deodorant use at all.  

[kukushkin88]

Aaron is quite right about Boris being a racist.

Sure, people might say he sacked off white cabinet members, replacing top jobs of Chancellor/Home Secretary with Javid and Patel.

But don’t forget he is a liar too so these are just the actions of a weird racist liar.

This is another of those weird ones that makes no sense. Is it a confused and failed satire? Surely you aren’t saying Boris isn’t a liar? Not easy when he does it on TV and was sacked by the Conservative Party and The Times for lying.

The reasons why he says and writes lots of racist things are more nuanced but still not a great look.

[TightEnd]

Shane Long is awful

has scored 10 goals in his last 90 appearances in the premier league (3 seasons)

so it is a perfect analogy

lol.

i looked over a career

anyway 10 goals makes it a poor analogy

find me a striker with no goals, better analogy