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« on: May 30, 2015, 02:40:02 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2015, 02:41:21 PM »

Incredible he is being barred from MGM properties!  Hardly his fault.
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2015, 02:56:33 PM »

Incredible he is being barred from MGM properties!  Hardly his fault.

Was he looking at the right seat draw? The right clock? The right blind structure? Noticed who was at his table? Noticed he was in the plush seats in the main poker room and not out in the casino floor where they hold the daily comps during the series?

Not the easiest mistake to make genuinely. If he's a complete newbie and had no idea he'd done anything wrong, I'd be surprised that he hadn't checked his receipt.

This isn't like when you go to McDonald's and they give you a king size rather than regular fries by mistake. Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2015, 03:17:51 PM »

Incredible he is being barred from MGM properties!  Hardly his fault.

Was he looking at the right seat draw? The right clock? The right blind structure? Noticed who was at his table? Noticed he was in the plush seats in the main poker room and not out in the casino floor where they hold the daily comps during the series?

Not the easiest mistake to make genuinely. If he's a complete newbie and had no idea he'd done anything wrong, I'd be surprised that he hadn't checked his receipt.

This isn't like when you go to McDonald's and they give you a king size rather than regular fries by mistake. Cheesy

Either way it is the dealers fault for not checking his ticket. 

If he is a total newbie he wouldn't have a clue who any of the whales are at his table anyway in the HR.  If he is in the know and at it he probably thinks spending $125 to get to sit in a HR for a few hours is a funny use of $125.  If he gets busted then he will get his $125 back and/or get to enter the comp he should anyway.  Barring him is just pointless and achieves nothing. 
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2015, 03:28:34 PM »

Pretty sure the three players he busted wouldn't have found it funny.
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2015, 03:32:52 PM »

Pretty sure the three players he busted wouldn't have found it funny.

That's being result orientated though.  I bet all the people who won big pots off him loved playing against a $125 casual in a $25k event.  Every time a player played a pot against him they would have had a decent edge presumably.  Whether they won or lost doesn't matter long term.
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2015, 03:46:20 PM »

If you try and have somewhere/thing over and get caught, you get punished.

I imagine there will be internal discipline for all staff involved, and seems standard that the dishonest party is, too.
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2015, 03:46:36 PM »

Pretty sure the three players he busted wouldn't have found it funny.

That's being result orientated though.  I bet all the people who won big pots off him loved playing against a $125 casual in a $25k event.  Every time a player played a pot against him they would have had a decent edge presumably.  Whether they won or lost doesn't matter long term.

Yeah but then the argument is that it's unfair on the players not on his table.
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2015, 03:51:58 PM »

Pretty sure the three players he busted wouldn't have found it funny.

That's being result orientated though.  I bet all the people who won big pots off him loved playing against a $125 casual in a $25k event.  Every time a player played a pot against him they would have had a decent edge presumably.  Whether they won or lost doesn't matter long term.

Yeah but then the argument is that it's unfair on the players not on his table.

That is a totally fair argument.
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2015, 04:01:20 PM »

Pretty sure the three players he busted wouldn't have found it funny.

That's being result orientated though.  I bet all the people who won big pots off him loved playing against a $125 casual in a $25k event.  Every time a player played a pot against him they would have had a decent edge presumably.  Whether they won or lost doesn't matter long term.

Yeah but then the argument is that it's unfair on the players not on his table.

That is a totally fair argument.

They had an equal chance of drawing against the fish.  All just variance. 

With Marky on this.  He should definitely be banned too, tried to steal $25k of EV, got caught.  Nice try sir. 
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2015, 04:07:09 PM »

i really hope he had no idea, and was sat there thinking 'cant believe Ivey, Dwan, Hellmuth' are playing a $125 comp!!'
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2015, 04:16:11 PM »

Incredible he is being barred from MGM properties!  Hardly his fault.

Was he looking at the right seat draw? The right clock? The right blind structure? Noticed who was at his table? Noticed he was in the plush seats in the main poker room and not out in the casino floor where they hold the daily comps during the series?

Not the easiest mistake to make genuinely. If he's a complete newbie and had no idea he'd done anything wrong, I'd be surprised that he hadn't checked his receipt.

This isn't like when you go to McDonald's and they give you a king size rather than regular fries by mistake. Cheesy

Either way it is the dealers fault for not checking his ticket. 

If he is a total newbie he wouldn't have a clue who any of the whales are at his table anyway in the HR.  If he is in the know and at it he probably thinks spending $125 to get to sit in a HR for a few hours is a funny use of $125.  If he gets busted then he will get his $125 back and/or get to enter the comp he should anyway.  Barring him is just pointless and achieves nothing. 

Disagree, Mr Argue. As far as the dealer was concerned, his ticket was valid for the $25k Event, as the Cashiers had issued him the $25k ticket.

The error was by the Cash Desk, not the Dealer. 

We can't prove the player acted improperly, but he almost certainly did. Everything about a $125 & a $25,000 event is different, & it'd be tough to argue he never noticed. 
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2015, 04:33:03 PM »

Incredible he is being barred from MGM properties!  Hardly his fault.

Was he looking at the right seat draw? The right clock? The right blind structure? Noticed who was at his table? Noticed he was in the plush seats in the main poker room and not out in the casino floor where they hold the daily comps during the series?

Not the easiest mistake to make genuinely. If he's a complete newbie and had no idea he'd done anything wrong, I'd be surprised that he hadn't checked his receipt.

This isn't like when you go to McDonald's and they give you a king size rather than regular fries by mistake. Cheesy

Either way it is the dealers fault for not checking his ticket. 

If he is a total newbie he wouldn't have a clue who any of the whales are at his table anyway in the HR.  If he is in the know and at it he probably thinks spending $125 to get to sit in a HR for a few hours is a funny use of $125.  If he gets busted then he will get his $125 back and/or get to enter the comp he should anyway.  Barring him is just pointless and achieves nothing. 

Disagree, Mr Argue. As far as the dealer was concerned, his ticket was valid for the $25k Event, as the Cashiers had issued him the $25k ticket.

The error was by the Cash Desk, not the Dealer. 

We can't prove the player acted improperly, but he almost certainly did. Everything about a $125 & a $25,000 event is different, & it'd be tough to argue he never noticed. 

Ok i didn't read it like that.  If that is the case then the cash desk just have to suck it up and take the bollocking.  Banning the player makes no sense to me.
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2015, 04:38:47 PM »

One thousand to one the player didn't realise what had happened.

Deserves to be banned.
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2015, 04:42:26 PM »

One thousand to one the player didn't realise what had happened.

Deserves to be banned.
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