Ruling please

[nirvana]

In an unopened pot, small blind jams.  While the BB dwells a bit the dealer thinks the hand is over, adds all the mucked cards into the deck and starts washing them about a bit and gives the pot to the SB.

Both Small and Big obviously have their cards still.

Can't help but be curious about the right ruling here as I've never seen that before

[TightEnd]

i have seen something like it

ruling then was both hands still live, and the chips are put back as they were.....ie blinds/antes in seperate piles then the shove

As all the cards are mixed up the deck is reshuffled and if the big blind calls the community cards can then be dealt as normal

[KarmaDope]

i have seen something like it

ruling then was both hands still live, and the chips are put back as they were.....ie blinds/antes in seperate piles then the shove

As all the cards are mixed up the deck is reshuffled and if the big blind calls the community cards can then be dealt as normal

Yeah this is what I was thinking. Thought I'd check RRoP and TDA rules but cant find anything like this. I'd do the same, neither player has benefited/will lose out from the dealers mistake, they dont know the cards that are in the muck.

[doubleup]

From the TDA rules

RP - 4. Disordered Stub
When cards remain to be dealt on a hand and the stub is accidentally dropped and appears it may be disordered: 1) it is first preferable to try to reconstruct the original order of the stub if possible; 2) If not possible, try to create a new stub using only the stub cards (not the muck & prior burn cards). These should be scrambled, shuffled, cut, & play then proceeds with the new stub; 3) If when the stub is dropped it becomes mixed in with the muck & burncards, then scramble the stub, muck & burncards
together, shuffle, and cut. Play then proceeds with the new stub.

The bolded bit is effectively what has happened.

[Karabiner]

Seems standard.

Don't tell me that the BB angled for a void hand.

[nirvana]

Seems standard.

Don't tell me that the BB angled for a void hand.

Tbf. There was a little other commotion at the time but yep he was pretty keen to either have my hand ruled dead or have the hand voided. No one really knew. The TD appeared confident but based on doubleup's post he was also completely wrong.

[MANTIS01]

Love live pokers...he kicked up a fuss, called the td, rah rah, found out no dice and then folded his spanners like he was always going to. 9 high like a boss.