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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2015, 10:03:17 AM »

Did any bookies pay out on 0-0 or 1-0 as a goodwill gesture?

"bookies" & "goodwill"?

Sorry, I'm not with you Keith.
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2015, 10:04:47 AM »

Did any bookies pay out on 0-0 or 1-0 as a goodwill gesture?

I heard about a few bots who did a fair few quid after automatically going up with the 'correct' prices on betfair after it went 1-0.
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2015, 10:09:08 AM »



Nobody answered the question in the thread title, I see.

Let us imagine it's 3 or 4 years ago.

Man U are playing the last game of the season v Liverpool, the score is 0-0 in stoppage time.

3 points will get Man U in the Champions League, 1 point is not enough.

Man U score an "accidental goal" in similar circumstances, so the players allow a walk-in by Man City.

What would Sir Alex say & think about that?
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2015, 10:10:04 AM »

Can't remember the match, but best moment of weekend was the keeper in L1/L2 who was trying to kick from his hands and was being hassled by a striker.    Do you:

A) Kick ball and wait for ref to book striker if he gets in the way
B) Punch striker, get red card and give away a penalty

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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2015, 10:12:26 AM »



Nobody answered the question in the thread title, I see.

Let us imagine it's 3 or 4 years ago.

Man U are playing the last game of the season v Liverpool, the score is 0-0 in stoppage time.

3 points will get Man U in the Champions League, 1 point is not enough.

Man U score an "accidental goal" in similar circumstances, so the players allow a walk-in by Man City.

What would Sir Alex say & think about that?

It would be very interesting in your example against Man City but i would like to think Fergie would see the bigger picture to his legacy and do the right thing tbh.  I can't really see any manager thinking about the long term ever doing anything any different.  Do you really want to be remembered as that kind of manager?
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2015, 10:12:38 AM »



Nobody answered the question in the thread title, I see.

Let us imagine it's 3 or 4 years ago.

Man U are playing the last game of the season v Liverpool, the score is 0-0 in stoppage time.

3 points will get Man U in the Champions League, 1 point is not enough.

Man U score an "accidental goal" in similar circumstances, so the players allow a walk-in by Man City.

What would Sir Alex say & think about that?

Not sure Tikay.  I think actually most likely outcome is don't give goal back, then play the good guy in the after match interview and offer to replay the match so you get another 90 mins to win.  That's what Wenger did when Arsenal scored when they were supposed to give the ball back.  Sheff Utd about to take Arsenal back to Bramall Lane for a replay.  Oops!  Another 90 minutes at Highbury it is then.
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2015, 10:16:40 AM »



Nobody answered the question in the thread title, I see.

Let us imagine it's 3 or 4 years ago.

Man U are playing the last game of the season v Liverpool, the score is 0-0 in stoppage time.

3 points will get Man U in the Champions League, 1 point is not enough.

Man U score an "accidental goal" in similar circumstances, so the players allow a walk-in by Man City.

What would Sir Alex say & think about that?

It would be very interesting in your example against Man City but i would like to think Fergie would see the bigger picture to his legacy and do the right thing tbh.  I can't really see any manager thinking about the long term ever doing anything any different.  Do you really want to be remembered as that kind of manager?

I might not be quite remembering the details but I think Yeovil did it to Birmingham a few seasons back near the end to go 2-2.  A riot ensues.  They play extra time and Yeovil go 3-2 up.  At that point Yeovil decide to let Brum walk it in (about 30 mins after the incident). 

So rather than lose the game in normal time they waited till they were winning to give Brum the goal back so they got to penalites.
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2015, 10:20:09 AM »



Nobody answered the question in the thread title, I see.

Let us imagine it's 3 or 4 years ago.

Man U are playing the last game of the season v Liverpool, the score is 0-0 in stoppage time.

3 points will get Man U in the Champions League, 1 point is not enough.

Man U score an "accidental goal" in similar circumstances, so the players allow a walk-in by Man City.

What would Sir Alex say & think about that?

100% sure Ferguson would have instructed his team to concede.
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2015, 10:48:32 AM »



Nobody answered the question in the thread title, I see.

Let us imagine it's 3 or 4 years ago.

Man U are playing the last game of the season v Liverpool, the score is 0-0 in stoppage time.

3 points will get Man U in the Champions League, 1 point is not enough.

Man U score an "accidental goal" in similar circumstances, so the players allow a walk-in by Man City.

What would Sir Alex say & think about that?

It would be very interesting in your example against Man City but i would like to think Fergie would see the bigger picture to his legacy and do the right thing tbh.  I can't really see any manager thinking about the long term ever doing anything any different.  Do you really want to be remembered as that kind of manager?

He only wished to be remembered as a Manager who won things. I don't think he cared a dot about his reputation or image.
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2015, 10:52:04 AM »



Nobody answered the question in the thread title, I see.

Let us imagine it's 3 or 4 years ago.

Man U are playing the last game of the season v Liverpool, the score is 0-0 in stoppage time.

3 points will get Man U in the Champions League, 1 point is not enough.

Man U score an "accidental goal" in similar circumstances, so the players allow a walk-in by Man City.

What would Sir Alex say & think about that?

It would be very interesting in your example against Man City but i would like to think Fergie would see the bigger picture to his legacy and do the right thing tbh.  I can't really see any manager thinking about the long term ever doing anything any different.  Do you really want to be remembered as that kind of manager?

He only wished to be remembered as a Manager who won things. I don't think he cared a dot about his reputation or image.

I think you are being a bit harsh there tbh.  He won everything you can win in the game club wise numerous times.  Just can't ever see him doing this just to win something he has already won before again.
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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2015, 11:02:59 AM »



Nobody answered the question in the thread title, I see.

Let us imagine it's 3 or 4 years ago.

Man U are playing the last game of the season v Liverpool, the score is 0-0 in stoppage time.

3 points will get Man U in the Champions League, 1 point is not enough.

Man U score an "accidental goal" in similar circumstances, so the players allow a walk-in by Man City.

What would Sir Alex say & think about that?

It would be very interesting in your example against Man City but i would like to think Fergie would see the bigger picture to his legacy and do the right thing tbh.  I can't really see any manager thinking about the long term ever doing anything any different.  Do you really want to be remembered as that kind of manager?

He only wished to be remembered as a Manager who won things. I don't think he cared a dot about his reputation or image.

I think you are confusing Fergie with Mourinho.
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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2015, 11:15:02 AM »



Nobody answered the question in the thread title, I see.

Let us imagine it's 3 or 4 years ago.

Man U are playing the last game of the season v Liverpool, the score is 0-0 in stoppage time.

3 points will get Man U in the Champions League, 1 point is not enough.

Man U score an "accidental goal" in similar circumstances, so the players allow a walk-in by Man City.

What would Sir Alex say & think about that?

It would be very interesting in your example against Man City but i would like to think Fergie would see the bigger picture to his legacy and do the right thing tbh.  I can't really see any manager thinking about the long term ever doing anything any different.  Do you really want to be remembered as that kind of manager?

He only wished to be remembered as a Manager who won things. I don't think he cared a dot about his reputation or image.

I think you are confusing Fergie with Mourinho.

Think Mourinho would do the right thing too. 
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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2015, 11:32:43 AM »



Nobody answered the question in the thread title, I see.

Let us imagine it's 3 or 4 years ago.

Man U are playing the last game of the season v Liverpool, the score is 0-0 in stoppage time.

3 points will get Man U in the Champions League, 1 point is not enough.

Man U score an "accidental goal" in similar circumstances, so the players allow a walk-in by Man City.

What would Sir Alex say & think about that?

It would be very interesting in your example against Man City but i would like to think Fergie would see the bigger picture to his legacy and do the right thing tbh.  I can't really see any manager thinking about the long term ever doing anything any different.  Do you really want to be remembered as that kind of manager?

He only wished to be remembered as a Manager who won things. I don't think he cared a dot about his reputation or image.

I think you are confusing Fergie with Mourinho.

Think Mourinho would do the right thing too. 

I think he *probably* would.

But there is a tiny inkling of doubt.

No doubt in my mind about old red nose.
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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2015, 01:38:52 PM »

I think it's fair to say that these days even if the manager of a side didn't give explicit instruction the players would act this way.

SAF would give the instruction.
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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2015, 03:11:40 PM »



Nobody answered the question in the thread title, I see.

Let us imagine it's 3 or 4 years ago.

Man U are playing the last game of the season v Liverpool, the score is 0-0 in stoppage time.

3 points will get Man U in the Champions League, 1 point is not enough.

Man U score an "accidental goal" in similar circumstances, so the players allow a walk-in by Man City.

What would Sir Alex say & think about that?


He would probably say "How the hell have we just let Man City score that goal when we are playing Liverpool?"
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