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« on: September 10, 2015, 11:59:36 PM »

it amazes me how many people complain about bad rulings and bad TDs but so many seem to know a lot of basic rules themselves.

Why don't players take a little more time to find out rules?
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2015, 12:06:48 AM »

Do you have a recent example to share from a game you played? Perhaps tell us a bit about the game, where it was held, the facilities and the sort of tournaments held at that venue. Is the food good?
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2015, 12:31:15 AM »

I keep my moaning to certain threads.

Thought I'd start a new genuine thread.  Maybe it's just me but I hear players complaining quite a lot these days about bad rulings against them or things that they have seen at the tables then it turns out they were in the wrong the whole time but don't have the balls to go back and apologise over how they acted.

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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2015, 12:39:53 AM »

Not being to under-raise all in in the sheffield area is a an example.  The td explained it to me as "I realise no-one else has this rule and it isn't a great rule, but we have to have it as without it there were too many fights..."
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2015, 12:42:04 AM »

Do you mean not being allowed to Simon?

So UTG opens to £100 and UTG+1 isn't allowed to go all in for £195?
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2015, 01:08:43 AM »

yea think it was a tourny, someone bet 40k, I wanted to go all in for 70k, but was forced to flat call.  Really struggle to follow how anyone wouldn't get the action right thereafter.
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2015, 08:14:09 AM »

It's the inconsistency of rules across different card rooms that is the main problem.
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2015, 08:26:06 AM »

Not being to under-raise all in in the sheffield area is a an example.  The td explained it to me as "I realise no-one else has this rule and it isn't a great rule, but we have to have it as without it there were too many fights..."


I would think the TD needs to look at his abilty to control the poker room not make a daft rule like this
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2015, 09:17:10 AM »

It was quite a common, if not universal rule back in the day.  I think because many games were pot limit and it took a week to work out what the correct pot raise was to someone who hadn't acted yet.
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2015, 10:27:22 AM »

Do most casual golfers know all the rules before they tee off?

Most poker plays know basic rules but only serious players will know most of the rules in detail.
Also poker tables are full of punters who are pretty ignorant to a lot of things and blaming the "rules" is usually a convenient excuse
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2015, 10:32:48 AM »

Whenever there's a dispute there's usually a table full of wanna be tds
Always makes me lol some of the stuff they come out with
There was an incident in Vegas 3 people arguing etc the td came over waited til the noise subsided then said to the dealer
Now tell me what happened please
You should let these people make the decision - possibly ask why ? - then get on with it
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2015, 10:33:21 AM »

All the old school players know the rules about string bets...
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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2015, 02:57:15 PM »

I thought about this at length, but I have a few theories. It's possibly an amalgamation of them all.

1) inconsistency of rules across operators.
2) lack of consistency within a given venue causing confusion and lack of understanding. It's not really a fault of players if they keep getting different rulings and as such get confused.
3) poker players are never wrong.
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2015, 03:37:13 PM »

I thought about this at length, but I have a few theories. It's possibly an amalgamation of them all.

1) inconsistency of rules across operators.
2) lack of consistency within a given venue causing confusion and lack of understanding. It's not really a fault of players if they keep getting different rulings and as such get confused.
3) poker players are never wrong.

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