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ACE2M
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« on: January 31, 2006, 06:52:42 PM »

I almost folded, was pretty sure i was against a set but a chance to get a huge stack.

Could i fold?




PokerStars Game #3817198986: Tournament #18846358, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI
(100/200) - 2006/01/31 - 13:33:10 (ET)
Table '18846358 35' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: doyojob (16610 in chips)
Seat 3: littleman74 (7190 in chips)
Seat 4: tommyk1 (28572 in chips)
Seat 5: hunstall (7470 in chips)
Seat 6: Zgaga (10170 in chips)
Seat 7: RATE615 (16340 in chips)
Seat 8: AsNas (6639 in chips)
Seat 9: mathcamp (45216 in chips)
AsNas: posts small blind 100
mathcamp: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tommyk1 [Ah As]
doyojob: folds
littleman74: calls 200
tommyk1: raises 400 to 600
hunstall: folds
Zgaga: folds
RATE615: folds
AsNas: folds
mathcamp: calls 400
littleman74: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [three diamonds two hearts ]
mathcamp: checks
littleman74: checks
tommyk1: bets 1000
mathcamp: raises 2000 to 3000
littleman74: folds
tommyk1: raises 4200 to 7200
mathcamp: raises 12200 to 19400
tommyk1 said, "set?"
tommyk1: raises 8572 to 27972 and is all-in
mathcamp: calls 8572
*** TURN *** [three diamonds two hearts ] []
Zgaga said, "nice call"
*** RIVER *** [three diamonds two hearts ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mathcamp: shows [ ] (a pair of Queens)
tommyk1: shows [Ah As] (a pair of Aces)
AsNas said, "gc"
tommyk1 collected 57844 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 57844 | Rake 0
Board [three diamonds two hearts ]
Seat 2: doyojob folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: littleman74 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: tommyk1 showed [Ah As] and won (57844) with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: hunstall folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Zgaga folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: RATE615 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: AsNas (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: mathcamp (big blind) showed [ ] and lost with a pair of Queens

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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2006, 06:55:18 PM »

I would never fold here with AA
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2006, 08:34:14 PM »

i couldnt/wouldnt have folded  aces OR  qheens in that hand  Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2006, 08:44:56 PM »

No fold for me either seem to play it perfect, if anyone calls your raise pre flop they must be on AK KK QQ, after the flop i can only see someome coming over the top if they was a maniac on the flush draw or they have hit trips and should of folded representing the strength in your raise.

I would of played it the same Cool
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2006, 11:44:47 AM »

I don't think i ever would have folded really but i was definately thinking if i could lay this down and i was right it would be amazing.

I busted out in 18 after pissing away a load of chips in races. Annoying way to go after 4.5hrs.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2006, 08:32:57 PM »

don't think you could put them on a set the way they played it. most players would definately slow play that flop. you made mostly right plays i don't know about the re-raise on the flop though. i'd just call and see what they did on the turn. a big bet on the turn and i'm all-in pretty sure they're overplaying AK or something.
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2006, 09:26:05 PM »

Difficult to put down but not impossible.

There's no reason to suspect QQ. He didn't raise preflop and just flatcalled your raise. Also, you can't really put him on TT, JJ, KK, AA for similar reasons.

By the time of the rereraise, I'd certainly be suspecting a set. Surely he wouldn't make the move with a flush draw. If he sees you reraising his flop bet, then he must suspect an overpair, and therefore a non-foldable (generally) hand. He'd probably slow down with a flush draw at this point.

I guess it depends on the notes you have on the guy. Also, is the table of a poor standard? Do you want to take the risk with the blinds still small? Can you fold and then outplay them?

Personally, I'd raise more preflop as then you'll get a better idea of his hand. He's much less likely to call with pocket twos or threes if it's a big raise.
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