Noisy Neighbours - the Man City thread

[Archer]

Why didn't they show pictures of the VAR offside for the final "goal"?

BT did there attempt in the post-match stiff with a single black line. Definitely off-side on that and zero complaints. But I've not seen the official VAR shots anywhere.

In the BT highlights show (but not the post-match stuff) there was a very clear view of the Morientes "handball". Indisputably hit his arm first and then hip before going in. Apparently, based on the guidelines UEFA gave to refs in January, this should have been disallowed irrespective of all other hand-ball rules re intent, deliberate or not, clear and obvious, silhouettes etc. But the ref wasn't given the clips where it was clear. I don't like that.

If the ball had struck a City defender in exactly the same fashion and been diverted away to safety, would it have been a penalty? The arm was clearly inside the body silhouette and there was no movement of the arm toward the ball.

I haven’t seen any of the evidence that makes it “indisputably handball”, only what was shown at the time, which looked pretty ok to me.
I’d say it’s one of those decisions where, if it had been Kompany’s intervention that scored a goal for City you would be absolutely horrified to have it disallowed.

I've read a bit more about this now. It is an IFAB change in the laws of the game which are effective from 1st June this year (and for the Champions League final):

The following ‘handball’ situations, even if accidental, will be a free kick:
• the ball goes into the goal after touching an attacking player’s hand/arm
• a player gains control/possession of the ball after it has touches their hand/arm
and then scores, or creates a goal-scoring opportunity  

Meanwhile, UEFA issued a directive to CL referees that they should apply the new rules now in advance of the official date.

So it is very specific, black and white almost, when there is evidence the ball simply touched a hand or arm before a goal but unlike penalties for handball which are subject to a completely different criteria.

On reflection it means it wasn't even a marginal decision and, if this is the rule,  the goal should have been disallowed. It is a matter of fact the ball touched his arm when you see the clearest replay.  No blame to the referee here because he could only work on the replays presented to him. And VAR has messed up.

banter incoming (mostly to deflect any comments on our world class goalkeeper and our surrender to the putative 2019 CL winners)

The ball didn’t go into the goal due to it’s touching his arm and he definitely didn’t gain control or possession due to the contact with his arm.



Seriously though; you conceded 3 goals at home, when did that happen last?

We were talking about de gea last night. You will know better than me but my perception is there have been plenty of uncharacteristic errors in the last year or so.  Joe Hart-itis maybe? Replace with Jack Butland?

[Marky147]

We were talking about de gea last night. You will know better than me but my perception is there have been plenty of uncharacteristic errors in the last year or so.  Joe Hart-itis maybe? Replace with Jack Butland?

Probably wondering wtf he's still doing playing in the prem

[Pokerpops]

We were talking about de gea last night. You will know better than me but my perception is there have been plenty of uncharacteristic errors in the last year or so.  Joe Hart-itis maybe? Replace with Jack Butland?

Probably wondering wtf he's still doing playing in the prem

Promote Romero to #1 while we wait for Pickford to grow up.

[Marky147]

We were talking about de gea last night. You will know better than me but my perception is there have been plenty of uncharacteristic errors in the last year or so.  Joe Hart-itis maybe? Replace with Jack Butland?

Probably wondering wtf he's still doing playing in the prem

Promote Romero to #1 while we wait for Pickford to grow up.

Will they get any dough for DDG now?

Obv not as much as they could have, I'd imagine.

[tikay]

Eden Hazard is more like Raheem Sterling than Raheem Sterling.

[booder]

 

[Longines]

I'm working in Manchester next week and fancy watching Leicester draw with City (you heard it here first...).

Any way to get a ticket for less than the £240 being asked for a hospitality one?

[Marky147]

I'm working in Manchester next week and fancy watching Leicester draw with City (you heard it here first...).

Any way to get a ticket for less than the £240 being asked for a hospitality one?

Paging Tighty.

LOL @ that Hazard vid. So good!

[tikay]

I'm working in Manchester next week and fancy watching Leicester draw with City (you heard it here first...).

Any way to get a ticket for less than the £240 being asked for a hospitality one?

hhy etc might be able to help, ditto Archer maybe.

Send hhy a PM, he's very helpful. I forget his full alias here, I just call him fat fucker. Be patient though, think he's on holiday at the moment.

EDIT - just checked, his correct blonde alias is hhyftrftdr

[Archer]

I'm working in Manchester next week and fancy watching Leicester draw with City (you heard it here first...).

Any way to get a ticket for less than the £240 being asked for a hospitality one?

The game sold out months ago but City operate an exchange system where ST holders who can't attend "sell" the seat back to the club who then re-sell it usually the week before the match.  For the big and/or popular weekend games they  come up and sell again very quickly. The Leicester game is a treated as a big game as it  the last home game of the season which historically  always sells out very early and tickets can be like gold dust.
However, as the game has been moved to the Monday evening at very short notice, there are lots of unhappy punters with travel, flights and hotels booked etc who have been screwed over and won't be able to attend along with the many others who simply can't attend midweek in any case. So, I'd expect to see more than the normal number of tickets coming up for sale via the exchange system over the week ahead. You might be able to get one of these by phoning the ticket office but there is a possibility you might be screwed if you need a previous purchase history.

 

[hhyftrftdr]

Erm, excuse me Tikay, I am not on holiday at the moment. I have no issues with the rest of your post though.

Gonna be tough to get a ticket for Leicester but as Archer points out, keep an eye on developments as there are a lot of disgruntled City fans who now seemingly can't make it so there could well be some tickets floating about in the days leading up to the game. Probably worth trying for the Leicester end too as I'm sure some of their support have also been fucked over by this late change.

Ironically, the change is good for me, but I'm firmly in the minority in that respect.

Regards,
FF (fat fucker)

[Longines]

Thanks both.

Seems like some exchange tickets may be filtering through. The 'buy tickets' button on the main website is no longer grayed out - it was when I posted yesterday - so hopefully a seat will appear sometime.

EDIT: got one, I'm in block 106. Now to rearrange my diary as I thought the game was next week....

[Archer]

Thanks both.

Seems like some exchange tickets may be filtering through. The 'buy tickets' button on the main website is no longer grayed out - it was when I posted yesterday - so hopefully a seat will appear sometime.

EDIT: got one, I'm in block 106. Now to rearrange my diary as I thought the game was next week....

Nice one.
A draw will be a great result for City. If we beat Burnley that is and Liverpool drop points beforehand Who knows, a win might be for the title...

[hhyftrftdr]

I love Ederson. The only way I could love him more is if he'd knocked the gobshite into 2020.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ederson-poses-tommy-robinson-didnt-14975625?fbclid=IwAR0di98Z7pwORIAytVDPKdwJICMLWo-RI0EchbWCxF3b_tfCNANtetXbD_c

[nirvana]

Just one more result and we're there. Kompany distributes the ball so well. He's getting betterer