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« Reply #3180 on: October 11, 2019, 07:07:35 AM »

I really can't see how positions like this help any democrat let alone a notionally sensible one like Warren. I guess winning the nomination is priority right now.

Ludicrous stance, especially in America

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1182471208270352384?s=09
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« Reply #3181 on: October 11, 2019, 09:17:02 AM »

I really can't see how positions like this help any democrat let alone a notionally sensible one like Warren. I guess winning the nomination is priority right now.

Ludicrous stance, especially in America

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1182471208270352384?s=09


The sort of answer you should lose an election over.
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« Reply #3182 on: October 11, 2019, 09:37:26 AM »

https://youtu.be/2_bKiNRah3g

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« Reply #3183 on: October 11, 2019, 09:42:46 AM »

I really can't see how positions like this help any democrat let alone a notionally sensible one like Warren. I guess winning the nomination is priority right now.

Ludicrous stance, especially in America

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1182471208270352384?s=09


The sort of answer you should lose an election over.


Aren't all parties in the UK committed to the principle of free health care for all irrespective of health, gender etc.   Isn't that the main principle of the NHS?  Farage has had his moments in the past, but expect even he isn't going to campaign against the NHS this time.

Guess you can find a few examples like this to test your principles; eg is the biggest scumbag on Earth is still entitled to a fair trial?
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« Reply #3184 on: October 11, 2019, 12:55:18 PM »

I really can't see how positions like this help any democrat let alone a notionally sensible one like Warren. I guess winning the nomination is priority right now.

Ludicrous stance, especially in America

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1182471208270352384?s=09


The sort of answer you should lose an election over.


Aren't all parties in the UK committed to the principle of free health care for all irrespective of health, gender etc.   Isn't that the main principle of the NHS?  Farage has had his moments in the past, but expect even he isn't going to campaign against the NHS this time.

Guess you can find a few examples like this to test your principles; eg is the biggest scumbag on Earth is still entitled to a fair trial?

Not sure about the relevance of our NHS to the topic of whether an American prisoner should get Transgender surgery. Only real point I felt like I wanted to make is that I can't see it being a vote winner. Not really bothered if American prisoners start having their bits chopped off with the help of the Government.
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« Reply #3185 on: October 11, 2019, 01:07:20 PM »

I really can't see how positions like this help any democrat let alone a notionally sensible one like Warren. I guess winning the nomination is priority right now.

Ludicrous stance, especially in America

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1182471208270352384?s=09


The sort of answer you should lose an election over.


Aren't all parties in the UK committed to the principle of free health care for all irrespective of health, gender etc.   Isn't that the main principle of the NHS?  Farage has had his moments in the past, but expect even he isn't going to campaign against the NHS this time.

Guess you can find a few examples like this to test your principles; eg is the biggest scumbag on Earth is still entitled to a fair trial?

Not sure about the relevance of our NHS to the topic of whether an American prisoner should get Transgender surgery. Only real point I felt like I wanted to make is that I can't see it being a vote winner. Not really bothered if American prisoners start having their bits chopped off with the help of the Government.

She believes in health care for all, so that means all, not just people who we like.  Given that she has to respond to the question she is asked that way, doesn't she?  I mean she could get all shifty and avoid the question, as many politicians would do.  I am not sure she should be scared of the reality of her beliefs.  I assume she went on to explain it, but we can't tell as you have linked to a version of her answer that a far right wing commentator knows shows her in the worst possible light.

Do you believe in the NHS proinciples, even if it means people are entitled to transgender surgery?  I assume they aren't going to give it to anyone who walks through the door, and will carry out proper processes around life changing decisions like that.

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« Reply #3186 on: October 11, 2019, 01:44:52 PM »

I really can't see how positions like this help any democrat let alone a notionally sensible one like Warren. I guess winning the nomination is priority right now.

Ludicrous stance, especially in America

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1182471208270352384?s=09


The sort of answer you should lose an election over.


Aren't all parties in the UK committed to the principle of free health care for all irrespective of health, gender etc.   Isn't that the main principle of the NHS?  Farage has had his moments in the past, but expect even he isn't going to campaign against the NHS this time.

Guess you can find a few examples like this to test your principles; eg is the biggest scumbag on Earth is still entitled to a fair trial?

Not sure about the relevance of our NHS to the topic of whether an American prisoner should get Transgender surgery. Only real point I felt like I wanted to make is that I can't see it being a vote winner. Not really bothered if American prisoners start having their bits chopped off with the help of the Government.

She believes in health care for all, so that means all, not just people who we like.  Given that she has to respond to the question she is asked that way, doesn't she?  I mean she could get all shifty and avoid the question, as many politicians would do.  I am not sure she should be scared of the reality of her beliefs.  I assume she went on to explain it, but we can't tell as you have linked to a version of her answer that a far right wing commentator knows shows her in the worst possible light.

Do you believe in the NHS proinciples, even if it means people are entitled to transgender surgery?  I assume they aren't going to give it to anyone who walks through the door, and will carry out proper processes around life changing decisions like that.



tbf, I'd like to engage but you're a bit too confrontational for me. It's not really necessary to challenge whether I believe in NHS principles just because I think Warren said a dumb thing in American electoral terms
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« Reply #3187 on: October 11, 2019, 02:08:37 PM »

I really can't see how positions like this help any democrat let alone a notionally sensible one like Warren. I guess winning the nomination is priority right now.

Ludicrous stance, especially in America

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1182471208270352384?s=09


The sort of answer you should lose an election over.


Aren't all parties in the UK committed to the principle of free health care for all irrespective of health, gender etc.   Isn't that the main principle of the NHS?  Farage has had his moments in the past, but expect even he isn't going to campaign against the NHS this time.

Guess you can find a few examples like this to test your principles; eg is the biggest scumbag on Earth is still entitled to a fair trial?

Not sure about the relevance of our NHS to the topic of whether an American prisoner should get Transgender surgery. Only real point I felt like I wanted to make is that I can't see it being a vote winner. Not really bothered if American prisoners start having their bits chopped off with the help of the Government.

She believes in health care for all, so that means all, not just people who we like.  Given that she has to respond to the question she is asked that way, doesn't she?  I mean she could get all shifty and avoid the question, as many politicians would do.  I am not sure she should be scared of the reality of her beliefs.  I assume she went on to explain it, but we can't tell as you have linked to a version of her answer that a far right wing commentator knows shows her in the worst possible light.

Do you believe in the NHS proinciples, even if it means people are entitled to transgender surgery?  I assume they aren't going to give it to anyone who walks through the door, and will carry out proper processes around life changing decisions like that.



tbf, I'd like to engage but you're a bit too confrontational for me. It's not really necessary to challenge whether I believe in NHS principles just because I think Warren said a dumb thing in American electoral terms

Oh come off it, everyone here can appear confrontational at times. 

She has said she believes in healthcare for all.   Sure appearing on the televison highlighting what this really means isn't a vote winner, I'll give you that, but at least it seems honest. 

How do you think she should have answered?


   
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« Reply #3188 on: October 11, 2019, 04:00:20 PM »

I really can't see how positions like this help any democrat let alone a notionally sensible one like Warren. I guess winning the nomination is priority right now.

Ludicrous stance, especially in America

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1182471208270352384?s=09


The sort of answer you should lose an election over.


Aren't all parties in the UK committed to the principle of free health care for all irrespective of health, gender etc.   Isn't that the main principle of the NHS?  Farage has had his moments in the past, but expect even he isn't going to campaign against the NHS this time.

Guess you can find a few examples like this to test your principles; eg is the biggest scumbag on Earth is still entitled to a fair trial?

Not sure about the relevance of our NHS to the topic of whether an American prisoner should get Transgender surgery. Only real point I felt like I wanted to make is that I can't see it being a vote winner. Not really bothered if American prisoners start having their bits chopped off with the help of the Government.

She believes in health care for all, so that means all, not just people who we like.  Given that she has to respond to the question she is asked that way, doesn't she?  I mean she could get all shifty and avoid the question, as many politicians would do.  I am not sure she should be scared of the reality of her beliefs.  I assume she went on to explain it, but we can't tell as you have linked to a version of her answer that a far right wing commentator knows shows her in the worst possible light.

Do you believe in the NHS proinciples, even if it means people are entitled to transgender surgery?  I assume they aren't going to give it to anyone who walks through the door, and will carry out proper processes around life changing decisions like that.



tbf, I'd like to engage but you're a bit too confrontational for me. It's not really necessary to challenge whether I believe in NHS principles just because I think Warren said a dumb thing in American electoral terms

Oh come off it, everyone here can appear confrontational at times. 

She has said she believes in healthcare for all.   Sure appearing on the televison highlighting what this really means isn't a vote winner, I'll give you that, but at least it seems honest. 

How do you think she should have answered?
 

I'm quite fragile though. A few ifs and equivocations shouldn't be beyond the skill of a politician on a complex subject with a number of pretty high hurdles to clear before ever being something that will happen.

Obvs I am now firmly snared in arguing for some equivocation but I think that has it's place at times. Now trotting off to prepare examples
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« Reply #3189 on: October 11, 2019, 05:55:31 PM »

I really can't see how positions like this help any democrat let alone a notionally sensible one like Warren. I guess winning the nomination is priority right now.

Ludicrous stance, especially in America

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1182471208270352384?s=09


The sort of answer you should lose an election over.


Aren't all parties in the UK committed to the principle of free health care for all irrespective of health, gender etc.   Isn't that the main principle of the NHS?  Farage has had his moments in the past, but expect even he isn't going to campaign against the NHS this time.

Guess you can find a few examples like this to test your principles; eg is the biggest scumbag on Earth is still entitled to a fair trial?

Not sure about the relevance of our NHS to the topic of whether an American prisoner should get Transgender surgery. Only real point I felt like I wanted to make is that I can't see it being a vote winner. Not really bothered if American prisoners start having their bits chopped off with the help of the Government.

She believes in health care for all, so that means all, not just people who we like.  Given that she has to respond to the question she is asked that way, doesn't she?  I mean she could get all shifty and avoid the question, as many politicians would do.  I am not sure she should be scared of the reality of her beliefs.  I assume she went on to explain it, but we can't tell as you have linked to a version of her answer that a far right wing commentator knows shows her in the worst possible light.

Do you believe in the NHS proinciples, even if it means people are entitled to transgender surgery?  I assume they aren't going to give it to anyone who walks through the door, and will carry out proper processes around life changing decisions like that.



tbf, I'd like to engage but you're a bit too confrontational for me. It's not really necessary to challenge whether I believe in NHS principles just because I think Warren said a dumb thing in American electoral terms

Oh come off it, everyone here can appear confrontational at times. 

She has said she believes in healthcare for all.   Sure appearing on the televison highlighting what this really means isn't a vote winner, I'll give you that, but at least it seems honest. 

How do you think she should have answered?
 

I'm quite fragile though. A few ifs and equivocations shouldn't be beyond the skill of a politician on a complex subject with a number of pretty high hurdles to clear before ever being something that will happen.

Obvs I am now firmly snared in arguing for some equivocation but I think that has it's place at times. Now trotting off to prepare examples


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« Reply #3190 on: October 11, 2019, 06:34:20 PM »

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/10/politics/warren-jokes-at-lgbtq-town-hall/index.html

Gone viral , very good comedy timing .

Should serve her well when going heads up against dipshit Trump .
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« Reply #3191 on: October 15, 2019, 08:09:48 PM »

Russian troops have now occupied the positions that the recalled US army have vacated in NE Syria.

Further strong evidence of the donald's treachery on Putin's command - as if it were needed.
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« Reply #3192 on: October 15, 2019, 08:45:32 PM »


That'll sort it, no danger.



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« Reply #3193 on: October 16, 2019, 06:12:16 PM »

Crikey me , they went after my mate Elizabeth last night like a pack of wolves in the debate which
goes to show who is the front runner for democratic nominee.

She did ok but stonewalling on how to pay for Medicare for all was a bad strategy decision IMHO.

Keeping the faith , all in.
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« Reply #3194 on: October 16, 2019, 07:11:58 PM »

Crikey me , they went after my mate Elizabeth last night like a pack of wolves in the debate which
goes to show who is the front runner for democratic nominee.

She did ok but stonewalling on how to pay for Medicare for all was a bad strategy decision IMHO.

Keeping the faith , all in.

AOC throwing her not inconsiderable lot in with Bernie Sanders rather than Lizzie is a bit of a bummer.
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