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« Reply #600 on: January 11, 2018, 08:37:22 AM »

Really baffling selections for the New Zealand tour.  England have dropped 3 players who barely played and retained all those who played fairly poorly.  Surely they could find at least one fall guy from that lot?  I get that it was tough and players deserve a fair chance, but if that is the case why drop Curran? 

I suppose at least the series is winnable even with that lot.

That's disappointing.

Can't think of a better opportunity to blood some new talent. Its not as if the senior players covered themselves in glory in Australia, is it?

To inject 3 or 4 younger players, & see 1 or 2 of them make a success must be as good as it gets, I'd have thought.

Shame for the boy Curran, too, who looks an interesting prospect, & who bowled his heart out in batter-friendly conditions.  Hardly good for his confidence to be discarded so quickly.

Maybe the selectors know best - in fact I'm sure they do. Love to know their thinking though.
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« Reply #601 on: January 11, 2018, 09:26:16 AM »

James Vince averages 32 in country cricket over a decade and 22 in two cracks at test cricket

Three glorious cover drives and then a loose snick off to the slips in most innings and he gets another chance?

I don't understand.

Same applies to Stoneman really, lets get Hameed in
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Nor do i understand jettisoning Tom Curran who i think kept going well on two roads in tests 4 and 5.Probably not quick enough to have a real long term impact in test cricket but seems a bit harsh to give him that baptism and thats it

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« Reply #602 on: January 11, 2018, 09:30:37 AM »

James Vince averages 32 in country cricket over a decade and 22 in two cracks at test cricket

Three glorious cover drives and then a loose snick off to the slips in most innings and he gets another chance?

I don't understand.

Same applies to Stoneman really, lets get Hameed in
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Nor do i understand jettisoning Tom Curran who i think kept going well on two roads in tests 4 and 5.Probably not quick enough to have a real long term impact in test cricket but seems a bit harsh to give him that baptism and thats it



Hard to see how he will ever average 40+ in Test Cricket, then, which must be the minimum required.

Agree as to Curran, he could not have tried harder, & deffo looked worth persevering with as a decent 3rd or 4th bowler.
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« Reply #603 on: January 11, 2018, 09:51:42 AM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42590656
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« Reply #604 on: January 11, 2018, 03:06:58 PM »

Curran was a reserve for a reserve, so I can see why he get let go.

Strange they backed Rocky to such an extent that again there is no reserve opener.

Regarding Vince, Bayliss has gone on record as saying he'd rather give them one game too many than one game too few but he clearly doesn't have the all-round game for test cricket. Has gone OK for us in white-ball, so should be allowed to focus on that.

Don't think we should be viewing this series as a drop in class, Kiwi's are a useful side at home. Williamson is a class act with the bat and a bowling attack of Boult, Southee and Wagner will be tough. Wagner ranked number 4 in the world, above anything in the  Aussie attack ...
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« Reply #605 on: January 14, 2018, 11:13:38 AM »

ENGLAND WIN BY FIVE WICKETS!

Jason Roy hit a brilliant 180 and Joe Root ends 91no as England go 1-0 up in the five-match series after a record-breaking chase at the MCG.

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« Reply #606 on: January 14, 2018, 11:43:29 AM »

Steve Smith believes England are leading the world in terms of how to play ODIs right now and Aust may need to follow their example

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« Reply #607 on: January 14, 2018, 11:53:34 AM »

Decent win, must admit I find it harder to get excited about one dayers these days.....
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« Reply #608 on: January 14, 2018, 12:01:47 PM »

Decent win, must admit I find it harder to get excited about one dayers these days.....

there are too many of them worldwide but they rake in the money

always enjoy the world cups and champions trophies.
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« Reply #609 on: January 14, 2018, 12:45:29 PM »

Tighty, would you consider Roy for the test squad?  Somebody on the BBC feed suggested it had no merit at all.  If all our batsaman were averaging about 50 and had no glaring weaknesses then I can see the merit, but right now, can it be true?

Just asking, as I can see why he wouldn't be considered, but surely you can't be too quick to dismiss it entirely?   I have spent the last few weeks listening to Geoffrey telling me that they should be aiming to hang round all day and scoring at one run an over, so entiurely possible that he is the opposite of what they need right now.

Anyway, would welcome your thoughts. 
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« Reply #610 on: January 14, 2018, 01:13:37 PM »

His red ball technique is flawed. A great flat track white ball bully when he comes off but not a test vplayer and never likely to be
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« Reply #611 on: January 14, 2018, 01:33:22 PM »

His red ball technique is flawed. A great flat track white ball bully when he comes off but not a test vplayer and never likely to be

Fair enough but I don’t see how a slugger who comes off once in a while than someone like Vince who will consistently fail?  Same applies to Hales?
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« Reply #612 on: January 14, 2018, 03:41:33 PM »

His red ball technique is flawed. A great flat track white ball bully when he comes off but not a test vplayer and never likely to be

Fair enough but I don’t see how a slugger who comes off once in a while than someone like Vince who will consistently fail?  Same applies to Hales?

Hales tried and failed. You have to bat at a different tempo in tests, only someone like Sehwag was able to do it really. Even Warner who started out as a T20 bat can rein it in when required. Hales tried to bat "sensibly" and just couldn't do it.

Roy bats 5 for Surrey in red ball, you'd want him batting higher realistically to further his claims, especially of you're going to throw him in as a test match 3 against the new ball.

Hales, Morgan and Buttler are all good ODI players with average test records, in my opinion the switch is much harder to make then it's made out. Each format is becoming more and more "specialist". Some one like Jimmy is an excellent test bowler bit doesn't have the skills for white ball cricket.

We can obviously still find someone better than Vince though 😂
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« Reply #613 on: January 15, 2018, 09:40:38 PM »

Stokes charged, my ex copper colleague called it.....oh well....will we next see him earning 7 figs in the IPL or is that too soon?
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« Reply #614 on: January 15, 2018, 09:45:22 PM »

Stokes charged, my ex copper colleague called it.....oh well....will we next see him earning 7 figs in the IPL or is that too soon?

he already has permission to play the IPL

very unlikely he will get a custodial for affray
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