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« Reply #2385 on: May 23, 2020, 12:39:04 AM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52779356

Looks like Boris under pressure on this one.

Bound to be pressure for Cummings to go.

That is barely believable.  Why would you even think of going to see your folks when you know you have Coronovirus?  He is about my age, so his folks must be pretty old and vulnerable.  I don't even think the rules come into it, just try and behave like  a human.
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« Reply #2386 on: May 23, 2020, 07:20:56 AM »

I personally think it's time to let the majority back to work and play.

Anyone in a low risk group can go back to work and get the economy moving again meaning the higher risk group can maybe have their furlough pay extended long enough to get through this.

I'd be more than happy taking my chances. At the same time I know of people who wouldn't and with very good reason. Why not let me go back to work so I can generate some tax to help others?

I understand that there would still be some hospitalised from my 'low risk' group but it won't be enough to cripple the NHS.

Keep the vulnerable at home fully supported with furlough or whatever support is needed and let the fit go to work and support them.



This is pretty much my view too
Protect the vulnerable
Rest of us get on with it slowly and carefully .
Businesses are going to the wall daily - shearing coach firm ,so if the elderly survive they are now fkd for going on coach trips
Hertz being mentioned - but also mentioned is their massive debt mountain ,surely this isn’t all down to corona .?
merely their inability to service the debt ?
Caused by a downturn

We went for a retest yesterday fingers crossed iM negative

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« Reply #2387 on: May 23, 2020, 01:11:44 PM »

Lots of modelling of Covid19 by state in the US

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/mrc-gida/2020-05-21-COVID19-Report-23.pdf

Looks like Texas is the place to look at for the future effect of linited shutdown?

I saw this article which shows that Florida effectively shut down long before the State mandated it.  I saw something similar for the UK, but don't think it was near what seems to have happened in Florida.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/05/10/how-florida-slowed-coronavirus-everyone-stayed-home-before-they-were-told-to/

This shows that people are effectively making many of the shutdown decisions, not Governments. This backs the Nirvana hypothesis that many people can make up their own minds pretty well on what is sensible.   
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« Reply #2388 on: May 23, 2020, 01:45:59 PM »

The cabinet falling into line to defend Cummings is shameful. The health secretary now saying it was ok to not follow the rules. This can't be allowed to go on surely?
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« Reply #2389 on: May 23, 2020, 01:49:43 PM »

The cabinet falling into line to defend Cummings is shameful. The health secretary now saying it was ok to not follow the rules. This can't be allowed to go on surely?

He must be either an unbelievable talent so good they can't let him go at any cost, or that motherfucker knows where the bodies are buried.
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« Reply #2390 on: May 23, 2020, 03:58:04 PM »

Hmm, Ladbrokes.....

Cummings to still be in post on June 1st 2020    1/3

Cummings to have left post as Senior Advisor to PM by end May 2020     2/1
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« Reply #2391 on: May 23, 2020, 04:34:55 PM »

Hmm, Ladbrokes.....

Cummings to still be in post on June 1st 2020    1/3

Cummings to have left post as Senior Advisor to PM by end May 2020     2/1

I saw the Starsports odds earlier and they were much the same.   Seems everybody else misinterpreted the advice except Cummings.  Astonishing he ever got the job in the first place given he had already been found in contempt of parliament.  Even the Daily Mail and The Sun arr sgainst him.  The Conservative Ministers all synchronising their messages from about Cummings was a sight to behold.   Ferguson had to resign for much less risky behaviour and he wasn't even in Government. 

Hilarious they needed help looking after one child when there were two of them, they are clearly not short of a wage and they were living in one of the easiest places to get deliveries in the World.   

Hope every Minister they put up gets slaughtered over this.
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« Reply #2392 on: May 23, 2020, 07:49:17 PM »

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-dominic-cummings-must-go/

The Spectator putting the boot in now.   
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« Reply #2393 on: May 23, 2020, 07:59:07 PM »

Second expose tonight of another trip to Durham and a trip 30 miles away when there.

Top bins journalism after cabinet ministers all defend the indefensible all day
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« Reply #2394 on: May 23, 2020, 09:48:37 PM »

Second expose tonight of another trip to Durham and a trip 30 miles away when there.

Top bins journalism after cabinet ministers all defend the indefensible all day

He should sack him quickly as this isn’t going to go away.

Unfortunately Boris will probably dig his heels in.
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« Reply #2395 on: May 24, 2020, 10:04:01 AM »

Retested Friday at 1630
Results arrived simultaneously at2140 last night ( Saturday) by text and e mail both of us negative
Phew 😅
I was worried by the whole thing ,catching it , I got it with virtually no symptoms,then just as quickly it’s gone
Does that mean I’m immune now ?
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« Reply #2396 on: May 24, 2020, 10:17:15 AM »

Twitter full of people with stories along the lines. 'My (insert relative) was critically ill/dying at home and I didn't go and see them, I'm enraged'.

I wouldn't be publishing how callous I am just to make some point about Cummings.

If my mum had been dying at home I can say with 100% confidence I would have visited and spent time with her, not sure how anyone could make a different decision based on some kind of madness that made you exhibit some level of super obedience to guidelines





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« Reply #2397 on: May 24, 2020, 11:22:45 AM »

callous?

really?

It was exactly what people were told to do. stay away. Including funerals


Anyway, I have never known such an absent prime minister. And in a time of national crisis — it beggars belief.

He's done one daily briefing since his return. One pre-recorded TV appearance too.

Got rogered every Wednesday at PMQs

Apart from that? not exactly Chruchillian leadership is it?

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« Reply #2398 on: May 24, 2020, 11:27:19 AM »

BoJo’s lost his Mojo

Cummings is poisonous as far as c.99.5% of the country is concerned. Boris needs to terminate him to regain some level of public confidence IMO.
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« Reply #2399 on: May 24, 2020, 11:27:53 AM »

callous?

really?

It was exactly what people were told to do. stay away. Including funerals


Anyway, I have never known such an absent prime minister. And in a time of national crisis — it beggars belief.

He's done one daily briefing since his return. One pre-recorded TV appearance too.

Got rogered every Wednesday at PMQs

Apart from that? not exactly Chruchillian leadership is it?



Is it callous, imo, yes.

We all break guidelines and even laws with impunity a lot of the time so it's a bit silly to act like this is the only sacrosanct rule we should never break - borderline moronic tbf
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