Weirdest hand ever?

[I KNOW IT]

I remember reading about Stu Ungar calling Matloubi’s river shove in a $50k HU game with ten high.

I remember sitting next to I KNOW IT deep in a Walsall J10 event and watching him snap-call a turn shove with K high, no hand no draw. I looked on with my jaw on the felt as he slapped his hand down with such confidence. Sent that guy to the rail talking to himself.

I even remember the late, great MANTIS01 fist-pump slam-dunk calling a river shove in the latter stages of a Vegas event with A high. I was so in tune with the poker universe I felt the magical vibrations of a higher energy..(admittedly on that occasion my opponent tabled quad 7’s but whatever)

Adelstein may say ‘poker’ is an extremely complicated and nuanced game’ but I reckon it’s nothing compared to the workings of an average human brain. Don’t think I can remember a poker comp where some action or another hasn’t boggled my brain. How? WTF? Pffft!

Never seen somebody take their money back before though. Interestingly the thousands of examples I’ve seen could never be due to a hidden vibrating device or knowing the river cards in advance when running it twice. So what was the logical explanation back then? Really, the fascinating enigma of poker is how classic wizards cannot fathom the off-topic actions of inexplicable artists. It’s simply illogical captain.

Here they must have given the fish with no poker understanding a vibrating device. Plus offering my money back would be a big admission of guilt so hey presto she offered it back, clearly admitting her guilt. These brainiac suggestions make perfect logical sense to my Dr Spock mind. It’s not that I’m a massive cry baby and my oppo thought fuck it call, fuck it have your dollar back.

Haha. I do miss the good old J10 poker days.   
Welcome back mate , I also missed your insightful posts

[tikay]

Lengthy but fascinating read......


Garrett Adelstein Report on Likely Cheating on Hustler Casino Live



https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/garrett-adelstein-report-likely-cheating-hustler-casino-live-1813491/#post57848911

[Marky147]

Just too much going on, so I think I'll just wait and see what comes out in the wash.

I've been busy with PokerGO which is becoming better value for money every year.

Super High Roller Bowl was a great 3 days viewing, and before that  we had the Poker Masters.

Schulman and Nejad might just be the greatest!

[MANTIS01]

Lengthy but fascinating read......


Garrett Adelstein Report on Likely Cheating on Hustler Casino Live



https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/garrett-adelstein-report-likely-cheating-hustler-casino-live-1813491/#post57848911

A fascinating read for sure but ultimately flaky. Lying about relationships and borrowing money isn't admissible evidence in this case m'lud.

The video footage is allowed. This shows so-called 'hand-signalling' which is seen as arm across chest with finger at full extension pointing at shoulder. If we think about all the ingenious ways to signal each other would we really use something so physically stark? I could take a sip from my drink and put it down on the left corner of the coaster for instance. I wouldn't be doing the actions from YMCA or Mo Farah's Mobot move.

Catching sight of something away from the table and mouthing "Get it" is evidence of the need to retrieve a signalling device on the floor? Or perhaps they ordered some Class A to enhance the evening's entertainment and Big Tony just turned up at the window. Kinda explains all the guilty looks and rambling chat.

The objective was to obtain monies by deception? This had been successfully achieved. So handing back £135k seems compelling evidence to the contrary. Plus the fella signalling to call with J4 must've had too much of Big Tony's merch. If this is a cheating ring it's all very keystone cops. Case adjourned at this time.

[tikay]

Lengthy but fascinating read......


Garrett Adelstein Report on Likely Cheating on Hustler Casino Live



https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/garrett-adelstein-report-likely-cheating-hustler-casino-live-1813491/#post57848911

A fascinating read for sure but ultimately flaky. Lying about relationships and borrowing money isn't admissible evidence in this case m'lud.

The video footage is allowed. This shows so-called 'hand-signalling' which is seen as arm across chest with finger at full extension pointing at shoulder. If we think about all the ingenious ways to signal each other would we really use something so physically stark? I could take a sip from my drink and put it down on the left corner of the coaster for instance. I wouldn't be doing the actions from YMCA or Mo Farah's Mobot move.

Catching sight of something away from the table and mouthing "Get it" is evidence of the need to retrieve a signalling device on the floor? Or perhaps they ordered some Class A to enhance the evening's entertainment and Big Tony just turned up at the window. Kinda explains all the guilty looks and rambling chat.

The objective was to obtain monies by deception? This had been successfully achieved. So handing back £135k seems compelling evidence to the contrary. Plus the fella signalling to call with J4 must've had too much of Big Tony's merch. If this is a cheating ring it's all very keystone cops. Case adjourned at this time.

You've not lost your touch despite advancing years Mr MANTIS. Most enjoyable read.

[MANTIS01]

Lengthy but fascinating read......


Garrett Adelstein Report on Likely Cheating on Hustler Casino Live



https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/garrett-adelstein-report-likely-cheating-hustler-casino-live-1813491/#post57848911

A fascinating read for sure but ultimately flaky. Lying about relationships and borrowing money isn't admissible evidence in this case m'lud.

The video footage is allowed. This shows so-called 'hand-signalling' which is seen as arm across chest with finger at full extension pointing at shoulder. If we think about all the ingenious ways to signal each other would we really use something so physically stark? I could take a sip from my drink and put it down on the left corner of the coaster for instance. I wouldn't be doing the actions from YMCA or Mo Farah's Mobot move.

Catching sight of something away from the table and mouthing "Get it" is evidence of the need to retrieve a signalling device on the floor? Or perhaps they ordered some Class A to enhance the evening's entertainment and Big Tony just turned up at the window. Kinda explains all the guilty looks and rambling chat.

The objective was to obtain monies by deception? This had been successfully achieved. So handing back £135k seems compelling evidence to the contrary. Plus the fella signalling to call with J4 must've had too much of Big Tony's merch. If this is a cheating ring it's all very keystone cops. Case adjourned at this time.

You've not lost your touch despite advancing years Mr MANTIS. Most enjoyable read.

Objection your honour!!

[Karabiner]

Running it twice doesn't seem to fit in with the cheating narrative for me.

Definitely weird though..

[Doobs]

Adelstein, who wrote a report dragging all sorts of people into this without clear evidence, wants us to stop dragging people into this without clear evidence or something.

https://twitter.com/GmanPoker/status/1579204873802825729?t=Z9k3v8C1dU48T4NX3rTlMQ&s=19

I’m as heartbroken and jaded as anyone, but that doesn’t make it ok to destroy people’s reputations without clear evidence. Unfairly going through hell myself last week, I would know. This is true not only of DGAF, but various others on the HCL staff as well. Let’s be better.

Was moving on and letting the investigation play out, but this made me smile. 

[Marky147]

Other than memes, along with dipping in and out of a few twitter threads, I'm staying well out of it.

What an absolute shitshow it is, though.

[StuartHopkin]

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-10-07/poker-cheating-scandal-robbi-jade-lew

[the sicilian]

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-10-07/poker-cheating-scandal-robbi-jade-lew

She sounds lovely 

[RED-DOG]

I have no time for either of these players, but if she was bright and sophisticated enough to cheat in a high-stakes, televised game in the company of top class, savvy players, wouldn't she be bright and sophisticated enough to pick a better hand/spot? 

[the sicilian]

I have no time for either of these players, but if she was bright and sophisticated enough to cheat in a high-stakes, televised game in the company of top class, savvy players, wouldn't she be bright and sophisticated enough to pick a better hand/spot? 

Think shes the fall girl..not that bright..superficial and look like shes banging the ring leader who is a basically a peniless con man.
This is her husband..lol.. lawyer//looks as dodgy as fuck

https://charleslew.com/about

[nirvana]

I have no time for either of these players, but if she was bright and sophisticated enough to cheat in a high-stakes, televised game in the company of top class, savvy players, wouldn't she be bright and sophisticated enough to pick a better hand/spot? 

Agree, this would be an odd spot to choose to use yr cheating advantage - bit too gambly if you have a cheats edge

This saga has led to me watching a few streams of that game starting with a stream of that whole evening. Never thought I would watch stuff like this again but I have. She's kind of watchable, she has good bappage which is quite mesmerising and I always liked Tomb Raider.

My new fav passtime is watching streams when Garrett loses 250k or so, try and avoid the ones where he wins.

[Karabiner]

I have no time for either of these players, but if she was bright and sophisticated enough to cheat in a high-stakes, televised game in the company of top class, savvy players, wouldn't she be bright and sophisticated enough to pick a better hand/spot? 

Agree, this would be an odd spot to choose to use yr cheating advantage - bit too gambly if you have a cheats edge

This saga has led to me watching a few streams of that game starting with a stream of that whole evening. Never thought I would watch stuff like this again but I have. She's kind of watchable, she has good bappage which is quite mesmerising and I always liked Tomb Raider.

My new fav passtime is watching streams when Garrett loses 250k or so, try and avoid the ones where he wins.

Those enormous lips(how much collagen) distract me from her not inconsiderable bappage - pronounced with a French accent of course.

Back to the poker and running the river twice:

If GA had connected with any of his multiple outs and the pot had been chopped, would there have been any comparable hue and cry afterwards?