WILLIAM HILL GRAND PRIX FINAL........TONIGHT

[Nem]

I disagree with above posts, people saying roy was the best player etc etc. IMO The best player in the tournament finished 2nd. Ram was top class both in his heat and in the final. also IMO now prima have ended the sponsorship with the mob, you will see the real Ram now. I have read posts and heard people comment that ram's heart wasn't in it coz it wasn't his money he was spending on the buy-ins and he was just treating tournaments abroad as a holiday and wasn't botherd if he went out in the 1st hand or not. I think prima ending it has done Ram a big favour and don't be surprised if he wins a couple of big tournies this year. Good luck fella. NEIGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

 

[AdamM]

best TV poker event bar none. every heat was flooded with talent and both the semi and the final were awsome line-ups.
I've not been a fan of Roy Brindleys in the past. his commentary has been rude and over critical and his play in the BPO was terrible. I'm converted through this tourney. I thought he player really well and I agree with the previous post about his comments about 65k being a good day at the office and about how fortunate he was to be doing this 'job'.  Ram was excellent as always and I couldnt see anyone else winning right from the start and Phil Laak showed a huge ammount of class as the winner.

Greg, before your interview I was planning to post and ask a question but you answered it before I could. I was going to ask if you called basically because of the cameras and the fact you dare not pass the 2nd nuts to Ram incase he was out playing you. I think by that stage you'd have to be super human to get away. any embarressment about the exit hand should be overshadowed by the excellently played  before that. top class mate

[pokerdave69]

Cheers Nemesis. Glad to see we agree on poker if not about the next England manager. 

[Junior Senior]

best TV poker event bar none. every heat was flooded with talent and both the semi and the final were awsome line-ups.
I've not been a fan of Roy Brindleys in the past. his commentary has been rude and over critical and his play in the BPO was terrible. I'm converted through this tourney. I thought he player really well and I agree with the previous post about his comments about 65k being a good day at the office and about how fortunate he was to be doing this 'job'.  Ram was excellent as always and I couldnt see anyone else winning right from the start and Phil Laak showed a huge ammount of class as the winner.

Greg, before your interview I was planning to post and ask a question but you answered it before I could. I was going to ask if you called basically because of the cameras and the fact you dare not pass the 2nd nuts to Ram incase he was out playing you. I think by that stage you'd have to be super human to get away. any embarressment about the exit hand should be overshadowed by the excellently played  before that. top class mate

thanks Adam
it had quite alot to do with it but i had other easons. - for anyone thats interested i have done a full analysis of the hand on my blog (link below)
shamelss plug over 

[Sheriff Fatman]

I've not been a fan of Roy Brindleys in the past. his commentary has been rude and over critical and his play in the BPO was terrible. I'm converted through this tourney. I thought he player really well and I agree with the previous post about his comments about 65k being a good day at the office and about how fortunate he was to be doing this 'job'. 

I've held the same views as you Adam but I agree that this was by far his most impressive TV showing and he handled himself very well after a tough beat.

Credit where its due.

Sheriff

[pokerdave69]

The Truth. I am not saying that he's not going to get another deal and i'm not even saying you don't see the real ram everytime he sits at a table, I was merely commenting on what i have read and heard in the past few months. Let me try and put into perspective what i am trying to say........ If you take a pro poker player who has lets say a £100k bankroll who has won lots of tournaments and who now gets approached by a company who wants to sponsor him...Then you take an average player like myself for example with a little bankroll whos never won a big tournament but picked up little wins over the months in £30 or £50 comps and i get approached by a company who wants to sponsor me. Who do you think will be more determined to prove themselves in the comps in which there sponsored ? The Pro who's got 100k in the bank already or the Average player who has fallen on his feet by getting a sponsor in the hope he will draw from the comp so the sponsor pays his buy-in / expenses again ? Your thoughts please. Dave

[The Truth]

The Truth. I am not saying that he's not going to get another deal and i'm not even saying you don't see the real ram everytime he sits at a table, I was merely commenting on what i have read and heard in the past few months. Let me try and put into perspective what i am trying to say........ If you take a pro poker player who has lets say a £100k bankroll who has won lots of tournaments and who now gets approached by a company who wants to sponsor him...Then you take an average player like myself for example with a little bankroll whos never won a big tournament but picked up little wins over the months in £30 or £50 comps and i get approached by a company who wants to sponsor me. Who do you think will be more determined to prove themselves in the comps in which there sponsored ? The Pro who's got 100k in the bank already or the Average player who has fallen on his feet by getting a sponsor in the hope he will draw from the comp so the sponsor pays his buy-in / expenses again ? Your thoughts please. Dave

IMO Poker Players / Gamblers like Ram are born not created. Their mental outlook makes them what they are. They are not concerned with their bankrolls, they just live to play and gamble. Whether they have £100k in their bankroll or they owe £100k they will always revert to their natural instinct, and instinct that cannot be taught or learnt but either exists or doesn't. What makes Ram a GREAT player IMO is that he never feels the need to prove himself, not to a sponsor, not to other players not to the TV watching public. If he has anything to prove to anyone I guess it is to himself. Dave, this is only my personal view and I am not asking anyone one to take it as gospel and you may well be right.

[pokerdave69]

I agree with some of your thoughts. I personally think that Ram is one of the best players in europe and i also feel he has nothing to prove, However let me ask you a question when was the last time a well known sponsored player won a big money comp ? Maybe it's just me thinking this but the people who have won comps before they were sponsored now all of a sudden can't get a result, is this just fluke or maybe it's due to the fact it's not their money they are spending on buy-ins and expenses.

[Sark79]

The Truth. I am not saying that he's not going to get another deal and i'm not even saying you don't see the real ram everytime he sits at a table, I was merely commenting on what i have read and heard in the past few months. Let me try and put into perspective what i am trying to say........ If you take a pro poker player who has lets say a £100k bankroll who has won lots of tournaments and who now gets approached by a company who wants to sponsor him...Then you take an average player like myself for example with a little bankroll whos never won a big tournament but picked up little wins over the months in £30 or £50 comps and i get approached by a company who wants to sponsor me. Who do you think will be more determined to prove themselves in the comps in which there sponsored ? The Pro who's got 100k in the bank already or the Average player who has fallen on his feet by getting a sponsor in the hope he will draw from the comp so the sponsor pays his buy-in / expenses again ? Your thoughts please. Dave

IMO Poker Players / Gamblers like Ram are born not created. Their mental outlook makes them what they are. They are not concerned with their bankrolls, they just live to play and gamble. Whether they have £100k in their bankroll or they owe £100k they will always revert to their natural instinct, and instinct that cannot be taught or learnt but either exists or doesn't. What makes Ram a GREAT player IMO is that he never feels the need to prove himself, not to a sponsor, not to other players not to the TV watching public. If he has anything to prove to anyone I guess it is to himself. Dave, this is only my personal view and I am not asking anyone one to take it as gospel and you may well be right.

I believe we are all made with a blank slate. We all have the same DNA and therefor we are all capable of the same things. There is no reason why a player who has been losing at poker for 30 years cannot be turned into another Phil Ivey with the correct guidence.

Look at Daniel Negreanu, he used to get beaten.  He worked on his game. Now he is one of the best.

The idea of being born.  Well that suggests some kind of higher power dishing out gifts to some people and not to others.

As I don't believe in any kind of higher power, whether it is the tooth fairy or GOD. I can't share this veiw.

As always though on Blonde, everyones opinions are important and valued.

[The Truth]

The Truth. I am not saying that he's not going to get another deal and i'm not even saying you don't see the real ram everytime he sits at a table, I was merely commenting on what i have read and heard in the past few months. Let me try and put into perspective what i am trying to say........ If you take a pro poker player who has lets say a £100k bankroll who has won lots of tournaments and who now gets approached by a company who wants to sponsor him...Then you take an average player like myself for example with a little bankroll whos never won a big tournament but picked up little wins over the months in £30 or £50 comps and i get approached by a company who wants to sponsor me. Who do you think will be more determined to prove themselves in the comps in which there sponsored ? The Pro who's got 100k in the bank already or the Average player who has fallen on his feet by getting a sponsor in the hope he will draw from the comp so the sponsor pays his buy-in / expenses again ? Your thoughts please. Dave

IMO Poker Players / Gamblers like Ram are born not created. Their mental outlook makes them what they are. They are not concerned with their bankrolls, they just live to play and gamble. Whether they have £100k in their bankroll or they owe £100k they will always revert to their natural instinct, and instinct that cannot be taught or learnt but either exists or doesn't. What makes Ram a GREAT player IMO is that he never feels the need to prove himself, not to a sponsor, not to other players not to the TV watching public. If he has anything to prove to anyone I guess it is to himself. Dave, this is only my personal view and I am not asking anyone one to take it as gospel and you may well be right.

I believe we are all made with a blank slate. We all have the same DNA and therefor we are all capable of the same things. There is no reason why a player who has been losing at poker for 30 years cannot be turned into another Phil Ivey with the correct guidence.

Look at Daniel Negreanu, he used to get beaten.  He worked on his game. Now he is one of the best.

The idea of being born.  Well that suggests some kind of higher power dishing out gifts to some people and not to others.

As I don't believe in any kind of higher power, whether it is the tooth fairy or GOD. I can't share this veiw.

As always though on Blonde, everyones opinions are important and valued.

Nowt to do with higher powers etc. The bottom line is how many people have a personality that will allow them to gamble everything they have?

[I, Zimbra]

Errr... we don't all have the same DNA?  That would be very scary?   

[Sark79]

Maybey this can be developed.  If you approach it with a system.

enjoy the BB mate, have a good night


lol, i meant the same ability to learn.

[The Truth]

Errr... we don't all have the same DNA?  That would be very scary?   

I am originally from Wiltshire and that very claim is made with regard to some villages.

[Sark79]

Errr... we don't all have the same DNA?  That would be very scary?   

I am originally from Wiltshire and that very claim is made with regard to some villages.

lol, I have family from there.  they would probably say the same   

[I, Zimbra]

Errr... we don't all have the same DNA?  That would be very scary?   

I am originally from Wiltshire and that very claim is made with regard to some villages.

"This is a local shop, for local people! We don't want your sort around here!"