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« Reply #75 on: April 17, 2006, 11:19:57 PM »



Please could you list the Prize monies.

1st  €350,000

2nd  €180,000

3rd  €100,000

4th  €70,000

5th  €60,000

6th  €50,000
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« Reply #76 on: April 17, 2006, 11:21:31 PM »

In case you think Snoops is being weirdly quiet, it's his wifi card.  No, really, he's not slacking off, he's working just as hard as me sitting on this sofa.  We'll do shifts, so you don't have to just listen to my wittering.
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« Reply #77 on: April 17, 2006, 11:24:31 PM »

They won't be playing during the breaks - live televised poker can take ages. I wonder how many hands per hour we're going to get - I'd say no more that 15-20.

Going back to the 99 v AQ hand, Simon Trumper mentioned the checking out of turn, which meant that Smyth may not have put Mellinn on the Queen. He didn't then make the extra leap to say that when it came to the river, Smyth may well have thought there was a good chance Mellinn had a 5, his betting pattern would fit this.

If that last card had been a blank, I think Smyth was calling a river bet.

I agree with this - it was a strange hand.  Do you think he might have liked his Nines more if Melinn had checked the turn, regardless of the river i.e. called the (smaller, necessarily) river bet?

Possibly. Checking the turn would, as you said, have resulted in Smyth facing a smaller river bet, which he would probably have called to keep Vincent honest.

When Smyth calls the flop bet, the extra Queen on the turn changes nothing - if he was ahead, he's still ahead and if he was behind, he's still behind. The 5 on the river means there's a chance Melinn overtook him, hence the fold.
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« Reply #78 on: April 17, 2006, 11:26:28 PM »

The hole-card cameras look up through a pretty large glass panel, and when they film the players from under there they look like giants or like you're a hamster or something in a glass cage.  Just for those without the benefit of visual stimulation.

Ian's just cracked the 1 million chip point.
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« Reply #79 on: April 17, 2006, 11:31:55 PM »

They won't be playing during the breaks - live televised poker can take ages. I wonder how many hands per hour we're going to get - I'd say no more that 15-20.

Going back to the 99 v AQ hand, Simon Trumper mentioned the checking out of turn, which meant that Smyth may not have put Mellinn on the Queen. He didn't then make the extra leap to say that when it came to the river, Smyth may well have thought there was a good chance Mellinn had a 5, his betting pattern would fit this.

If that last card had been a blank, I think Smyth was calling a river bet.

I agree with this - it was a strange hand.  Do you think he might have liked his Nines more if Melinn had checked the turn, regardless of the river i.e. called the (smaller, necessarily) river bet?

Possibly. Checking the turn would, as you said, have resulted in Smyth facing a smaller river bet, which he would probably have called to keep Vincent honest.

When Smyth calls the flop bet, the extra Queen on the turn changes nothing - if he was ahead, he's still ahead and if he was behind, he's still behind. The 5 on the river means there's a chance Melinn overtook him, hence the fold.

I think to be overworried by the paired fives is probably not such a great idea - Melinn is very agressive which could mean that a)his flop bet was an autobet and b) he might even think Ace high is OK

I don't reckon he was folding because the five was such a scare card (trip queens is beating him just as much as any kind of house) but maybe three confident bets finally convinced him that he HAD been behind all along ("....if he was ahead, he's still ahead and if he was behind, he's still behind..." etc as you said)
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« Reply #80 on: April 17, 2006, 11:32:58 PM »

In any case, more stuff is happening, and it's Snoops' turn to bring it to you live and direct for a bit.
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« Reply #81 on: April 17, 2006, 11:34:22 PM »

Put £50 on Ruane at 7/2, about 35 minutes ago.

Go on my son! Show Woodley how to play!  Cool

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« Reply #82 on: April 17, 2006, 11:34:40 PM »

just watched the news ,dawn french has been arrested  trying to go through

customs at manchester airport with no knickers on ,

she fell and was instantly arrested for 40lb of crack

sorry i know this is the wrong thread but
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« Reply #83 on: April 17, 2006, 11:35:25 PM »

What I like about it being live id you get to see the crap hands and not just the ones full of action.

Brendan Ruane is playing well.  And since my family are originally from Ulster I would like to see him sneak it next time I am in Bundoran I might even try and track him down for a game.  Cheesy
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« Reply #84 on: April 17, 2006, 11:37:30 PM »

Howdy ho folks.

I'm back.

Anyone know any good lappie repair shops, my is in tatters across the other side of the room. 
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« Reply #85 on: April 17, 2006, 11:40:03 PM »

They won't be playing during the breaks - live televised poker can take ages. I wonder how many hands per hour we're going to get - I'd say no more that 15-20.

Going back to the 99 v AQ hand, Simon Trumper mentioned the checking out of turn, which meant that Smyth may not have put Mellinn on the Queen. He didn't then make the extra leap to say that when it came to the river, Smyth may well have thought there was a good chance Mellinn had a 5, his betting pattern would fit this.

If that last card had been a blank, I think Smyth was calling a river bet.

I agree with this - it was a strange hand.  Do you think he might have liked his Nines more if Melinn had checked the turn, regardless of the river i.e. called the (smaller, necessarily) river bet?

Possibly. Checking the turn would, as you said, have resulted in Smyth facing a smaller river bet, which he would probably have called to keep Vincent honest.

When Smyth calls the flop bet, the extra Queen on the turn changes nothing - if he was ahead, he's still ahead and if he was behind, he's still behind. The 5 on the river means there's a chance Melinn overtook him, hence the fold.

I think to be overworried by the paired fives is probably not such a great idea - Melinn is very agressive which could mean that a)his flop bet was an autobet and b) he might even think Ace high is OK

I don't reckon he was folding because the five was such a scare card (trip queens is beating him just as much as any kind of house) but maybe three confident bets finally convinced him that he HAD been behind all along ("....if he was ahead, he's still ahead and if he was behind, he's still behind..." etc as you said)

He can't possibly put him on a five, unless he's psychic os course, and even then, he'd still be wrong.
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« Reply #86 on: April 17, 2006, 11:41:02 PM »

What I like about it being live id you get to see the crap hands and not just the ones full of action.

Brendan Ruane is playing well.  And since my family are originally from Ulster I would like to see him sneak it next time I am in Bundoran I might even try and track him down for a game.  Cheesy

Live is definitely the way forward in my eyes. Imagine watching players like Ivey, Hellmuth, Negranu, etc in a set-up like this.
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« Reply #87 on: April 17, 2006, 11:42:55 PM »

soon to turn into a crap shoot snoopy?
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« Reply #88 on: April 17, 2006, 11:43:35 PM »

I think to be overworried by the paired fives is probably not such a great idea - Melinn is very agressive which could mean that a)his flop bet was an autobet and b) he might even think Ace high is OK

I don't reckon he was folding because the five was such a scare card (trip queens is beating him just as much as any kind of house) but maybe three confident bets finally convinced him that he HAD been behind all along ("....if he was ahead, he's still ahead and if he was behind, he's still behind..." etc as you said)

He can't possibly put him on a five, unless he's psychic os course, and even then, he'd still be wrong.

It's not so much that Smyth would conciously have put Melinn on a 5, but that, facing the river bet, if Smyth had any loss of confidence in his hand, he'd be looking for an extra reason to fold. The 5 falling allows Smyth to convince himself he was a) correct not to believe Melinn had a Q and b) also correct to fold.

Of course, he could have just bottled it.
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« Reply #89 on: April 17, 2006, 11:44:37 PM »

J-Q for Woodley.

Looks like he's coming in for a raise.
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