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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2012, 10:41:30 PM »

well not atc, but a sutied 2 gapper

Top 65%? I mean, just make it 15 and they both fold or call and hope to flop 2pair and fold when they don't, these spots are an absolute dream live.
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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2012, 03:49:30 AM »

Not read the replies (or most of the HH), but Im pretty much fistpumping here lol.

Jimmy definately overplays AK/AQ here. He also sizes his bets a lot lot better when he has a really strong hand (ie 2 pair+) and over raises when he has less strong hands (TPTK etc).

Can probably tell you about a few hands that back this up
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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2012, 03:55:29 AM »

I can't believe anyone would ever fold this hand preflop and think it's burning money to do otherwise.

Jack Nine blue? Tree fiddy? What is going on.

Squeeze pre for sure yes, I'd be loving it with J9. I'd probs do it super wide in this specific spot, not atc like our resident mentalist Adam, but defo like K3s, Q6s etc.

As played, I really don't know.
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2012, 06:22:32 PM »

Preflop either calling or 3betting is fine, which is best depends on game flow/reads/table dynamics etc etc etc.

Folding is incredibly nitty (and I am a proud nit!). You can definitely make a profit playing this hand in this spot.

On the turn, barring a soul read, this is a fairly trivial fold - but one which it is easy to forget to make when not playing your A-game.
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2012, 10:01:02 PM »

im in the 3bet p/f camp. obv calling is fine as well but its pretty unlikely he's decided to reduce his opening size as his been dealt a premium hand, most likely he has a hand he wants to be able to call a 3bet with. if anyone else in the hand had anything you wanna 4bet they would have 3bet for sure. Folding the worst option for me.

As played bet/fold the turn in this game 100%, he can have T8 as well, all the two pairs cant see any reason for him not to play it this way, also sizing looks like he loves his hand. Whatever his hand is i very much get the feeling he is desperate to turn it over and show you it.

Rule 101 for small stakes (maybe even all) poker; WHEN IN DOUBT, BET/FOLD.

Don't check the turn back either, clear bet imo.
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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2012, 02:18:45 AM »

Rule 101 for small stakes (maybe even all) poker; WHEN IN DOUBT, BET/FOLD.
This is a very good rule for PLO, since preventing an opponent realising his equity is so very important. However, it does not apply quite as strongly to other poker variants, NLHE included.

However, in this case it does apply. Which means that:

Don't check the turn back either, clear bet imo.
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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2012, 03:02:15 AM »

given his old man tendancies this is always a nutted hand, dont assume he is trying to value own you with aq bc he thinks you have at/a8... he just has a good hand is scared of the draws and wants to win now. FOLD
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