The chilling words of a murderer?

[The Camel]

"I had a huge adrenaline rush, love the choice, I love it, I love it... I hope I'm in the room when he dies."

These were not the words of James Holmes, the man who killed 12 people at a cinema in Aurora, Colorado last year though.

These were uttered by the best friend of someone he killed when he learned prosecutors planned to press for the death penalty for Holmes at his upcoming trial.

The USA is one fucked up country.

[Tal]

As Oscar Wilde said, the only country to go from barbarism to decadence without going through civilisation first.

[DungBeetle]

I am pro death penalty, but I wouldn't express my support for it in these words.  However, in this case the death penalty is absolutely justfied in my opinon.

[kinboshi]

I don't agree with the death penalty, and don't agree with the words that the friend has spoken.

But not sure they're the words of a 'murderer'.

[The Camel]

I don't agree with the death penalty, and don't agree with the words that the friend has spoken.

But not sure they're the words of a 'murderer'.

I should have put a question mark at the end of the title.

[The Camel]

I am pro death penalty, but I wouldn't express my support for it in these words.  However, in this case the death penalty is absolutely justfied in my opinon.

I am no shrink, but do you really think this was the actions of a sane man?

Lock him up and throw away the key sure, but if you put him to death you are dragging society down to his level.

[EvilPie]

I'm pretty sure that if someone had killed my best friend I'd have exactly the same thoughts. Much better to have the justice system kill him than have to worry about wanting to do it myself so yes, at the moment of finding out I think an adrenaline rush would be on the cards.

Whether I'd vocalise my thoughts is a different matter altogether.

I certainly can't see why someone having this thought process makes the USA 'fucked up'? Seems a perfectly natural reaction in my opinion.

[EvilPie]

I am pro death penalty, but I wouldn't express my support for it in these words.  However, in this case the death penalty is absolutely justfied in my opinon.

I am no shrink, but do you really think this was the actions of a sane man?

Lock him up and throw away the key sure, but if you put him to death you are dragging society down to his level.

Either would suffice in my opinion.

I'm pretty sure death is a much better deterrent to stop other psychopaths copying him in the future though so it would definitely be my preference.

[kinboshi]

I am pro death penalty, but I wouldn't express my support for it in these words.  However, in this case the death penalty is absolutely justfied in my opinon.

I am no shrink, but do you really think this was the actions of a sane man?

Lock him up and throw away the key sure, but if you put him to death you are dragging society down to his level.

Either would suffice in my opinion.

I'm pretty sure death is a much better deterrent to stop other psychopaths copying him in the future though so it would definitely be my preference.

The death penalty acts as a deterrent, in particular to other psychopaths?  Do you have the figures to back that up?

[DungBeetle]

I am pro death penalty, but I wouldn't express my support for it in these words.  However, in this case the death penalty is absolutely justfied in my opinon.

I am no shrink, but do you really think this was the actions of a sane man?

Lock him up and throw away the key sure, but if you put him to death you are dragging society down to his level.

I'm sure many people will disagree with me, but if a man walks into a cinema and shoots kids in their seats, I don't really care if he is insane or not.  We should dispatch him and allow society to high five itself as morale is repaired.   It's not about deterrent for me - just vengence for society.  I concede I am a bit of a caveman in this regard though.

[redarmi]

From the reports on the trial and especially his court appearances in the days immediately after I would say this guy is 100% not sane.

[AndrewT]

Death penalty has zero deterrent effect - no one thinks 'If I get caught killing this guy I'll spend the rest of my life in prison - that's OK. Good job there isn't the death penalty, or I wouldn't do this'

The only reason to have the death penalty is economic - 5 feet of rope is way cheaper than keeping someone in prison for 40 years.

[DungBeetle]

No - there is another reason.  Death penalty boosts the collective morale of society to see ultimate justice served.

So cost and morale.  Good enough reasons for me.

I don't necessarily agree with the deterrent issue either.  If a friend asked me to hold his bag of coke for him while he went to the toliet I'd probably be okay with it in this country.  Less so in Bali/Thailand or wherever it is where they hang you.

[EvilPie]

I am pro death penalty, but I wouldn't express my support for it in these words.  However, in this case the death penalty is absolutely justfied in my opinon.

I am no shrink, but do you really think this was the actions of a sane man?

Lock him up and throw away the key sure, but if you put him to death you are dragging society down to his level.

Either would suffice in my opinion.

I'm pretty sure death is a much better deterrent to stop other psychopaths copying him in the future though so it would definitely be my preference.

The death penalty acts as a deterrent, in particular to other psychopaths?  Do you have the figures to back that up?

Of course I have figures. I wouldn't have said it otherwise. I also have independent scientific studies at my disposal which prove everything I say beyond any doubt.

Unfortunately I keep all the evidence in my pants and you aren't allowed access so you'll have to take my word for it.

[EvilPie]

Death penalty has zero deterrent effect - no one thinks 'If I get caught killing this guy I'll spend the rest of my life in prison - that's OK. Good job there isn't the death penalty, or I wouldn't do this'

The only reason to have the death penalty is economic - 5 feet of rope is way cheaper than keeping someone in prison for 40 years.

Do you have figures to back that up?

I don't mind if you keep the figures in your pants, I'll just take your word for it.