Mass PLO bot ring-found on stars

[SuuPRlim]

bots on ipoker too, iv been told the SN's of suspected bots but been specifically asked not to reveal publically, anyone who plays ipoker feel free to skype/pm me i'll tell you

Iv also learnt of some big scale cheating that went on in big live games Iv payed in, so I'm feeling pretty bloody depressed abotu gambling right now...

basically I've had a house stolen from me (I live in leeds remember, so a pretty big house). cool story bro dry your eyes etc

I have been incredibly naive in my career and have paid a big price, this is what happens to inexperience and naivety in this world...lessons not learnt in blood are seldom remembered

[dwayne110]

Sorry to hear that Dave.

Are you able to give any insight into the live cheating, as in what they were doing? I presume collusion of some form?

[SuuPRlim]

Sorry to be all mysterious but cant go into detail, not collusion no, one of the most sophisticated cheating systems I ever heard, involving marked cards, thier advantage is so huge it would have been close to impossible for them to lose in a single session, was in a casino game too, and for big money.

[rfgqqabc]

Sorry to be all mysterious but cant go into detail, not collusion no, one of the most sophisticated cheating systems I ever heard, involving marked cards, thier advantage is so huge it would have been close to impossible for them to lose in a single session, was in a casino game too, and for big money.

Vegas? UK? elsewhere?

[SuuPRlim]

Elsewhere

[Omm]

Sorry to be all mysterious but cant go into detail, not collusion no, one of the most sophisticated cheating systems I ever heard, involving marked cards, thier advantage is so huge it would have been close to impossible for them to lose in a single session, was in a casino game too, and for big money.

Wow, this really doesnt sound to good at all, sorry to hear that you were a victim, is it 100%for certain that this happened to you?

Suppose there will always be criminals in all walks of life and poker will be no different, you would expect you would be somewhat safe in a casino though. Sometimes you half expect the person sitting next to you could be a criminal but i would never have expected that the criminal activities would involve the game i was playing in (if you get what i mean. Lots of criminals in there).

[SuuPRlim]

yes 100%, heard it from the horse's mouth...so to speak
$200 i lost in these games

My advice is that you should never assume anything safe, the safer and cleaner something appears then (whilst yes it's much harder to cheat) there is huge upside incentive for the perpetrators because of the sense of security the victims have, "We're in X casino so it's 100% safe" and so on. Where there is a will there is a way and some very sharp and clever people with plenty of money behind these things...

If something feels wrong, look closer, or ask someone, dont be afraid of coming across like a bad loser if it doesn't seem right do something, just be vigilant.

Don't be scared though, the vast majority of gambling games are straight and don't let paranoia ruin your enjoyment of the game, just need to remember protecting your money goes further than just not going broke with a bad top pair, you're protecting your money from anyone who wants to take it, fair means or foul...

[Oxford_HRV]

Oxford Chicago Joey did an interview with sauce where they discuss the bots and a wide range of other things. Basically stars security has an incentive to not catch bots that have avoided their security tools as it makes them look incompetent. Also they have a methodology for finding these bots and don't want to look outside of this to see what else they can find.

Yeah cool stuff thanks for that, didn't watch the full 3hrs lol I was dreading to try finding the topic but it was at the start :p

[rfgqqabc]

Oxford Chicago Joey did an interview with sauce where they discuss the bots and a wide range of other things. Basically stars security has an incentive to not catch bots that have avoided their security tools as it makes them look incompetent. Also they have a methodology for finding these bots and don't want to look outside of this to see what else they can find.

Yeah cool stuff thanks for that, didn't watch the full 3hrs lol I was dreading to try finding the topic but it was at the start :p

3 hours of Sauce bopping along on his treadmill should be every players dream.

[rfgqqabc]

Seems like the worst spyware ever. I mean its 2015 and they are using screenshots!? Its not really feasible for poker although I guess if you got really unlucky you could get stung.

[Ironside]

you think the press release might have said screenshot to keep it simple for the millions out there without much knowledge of all thins technical but know about screenshots from there phones