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« on: January 24, 2012, 03:16:59 AM »

Playing against a guy who is 41/39 over 100 hands withh 100% Cbet.

I am trying to counter him by 3 betting more. I have also been trying to bring more aggression in to my game. He has folded to a couple of my 3 bets.



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$20.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, January 24, 02:04:40 ET 2012
Table Harrisville (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ( $24.98 USD )
Seat 3: Player3 ( $20.00 USD )
Seat 5: Player5 ( $19.70 USD )
Seat 6: Player6 ( $18.00 USD )
Seat 8: Player8 ( $21.71 USD )
Seat 10: Player10 ( $34.06 USD )
Player3 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Player5 posts big blind [$0.20 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [  ]
Player8 folds
Player10 raises [$0.60 USD]
Hero raises [$1.80 USD]
Player3 folds
Player5 folds
Player10 raises [$3.20 USD]
Hero calls [$2.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
Player10 bets [$3.00 USD]
Hero calls [$3.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
Player10 bets [$4.40 USD]
Hero calls [$4.40 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ two hearts ]
Player10 checks
Hero bets [$13.78 USD]
Player10 calls [$13.78 USD]
Player10 wins $47.75 USD from main pot
Player10 shows [, ]

When he checks I try and take it away. There is no flush on the board. He turns up with J 10 and I lose the pot.

Should I have given up on turn and is my bet on the river a good line.
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2012, 12:15:16 PM »

I think I would fold turn, im not sure about pre, I would probably have folded. If he is that aggressive then I would just play tight and wait for him to bluff/spew his money off when he has an average  hand, with the 4 bet pre you aren't sure if he has a good hand or not but you know you will have to call the flop bet to find out, I would wait and see if he 4 bets you more in retaliation before peeling. On the river if he is a fish he is going to call you with almost any hand that beats you anyways and if you check back you can beat his bluffs/ semis.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2012, 01:18:47 PM »

3bet preflop is fine  imo

fold the flop. I assume you're not 3betting loads so when he bets the flop he is still betting into a very strong range which is fine for us , just so happens this hand we have somewhere near the bottom of our range so just fold. (As in, most of the time we have a much better hand than we do here so his bet isn't great)
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 09:53:15 AM »

Wow, unusual situation! How did you solve the problem?
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2012, 10:35:43 AM »

fold to the 4bet..
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 01:07:14 AM »

fold to the 4bet..

im sure I dont remember there being a 4bet?

wow yh defo fold, or 5bet lol
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2012, 10:12:01 AM »

nooo dont 5b fold at 25nl, it can never be good!
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2012, 12:11:18 PM »

nooo dont 5b fold at 25nl, it can never be good!

5bet call obviously Cheesy

only joking, don't do this ^
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2012, 12:52:49 PM »

Flatting a 4 bet pre is not good aggression.

Flatting the flop is not good aggression.

Flatting the turn is not good aggression.

Shoving the river when you've got barely a 1/2 psb isn't going to work often against a guy who 4 bet pre.

I think the question you need to ask yourself here is what you would've done with a thin value hand. Would you have shoved the river with A10 for example or just checked back?
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2012, 04:01:58 PM »

call call call desperation shove ≠ aggression.
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