blonde poker forum

So now that I complained about William Hill, you delete the whole discussion.

Obviously I hit a nerve about the site failing or you wouldn't be trying to protect it from complaints.

Another phoney forum that is run by a poker site and will not allow the truth.

You guys are total jokes.

Guess that is why it is so easy to take money from you fish that defend this site.

i dont use that site...if you have problems then why not adapt to my stratergy....

do i take it that you wont be requiring a ticket for our christmas party then syrflop ?

I hve posted several times about aspects of Crypto sites I don't like much. One example was the all in sb or bb problem (This was on betfair but Its same system). AFAIK it was never deleted.

It wasn't likely to be criticism which got it deleted but the manner in which you did it. The last thing Blonde needs is libel claims?

Exactly, i must say ive seen a good few people on here complain about Cryptio and betfair (Calling it BetUNfair), and yet all of these are still viewable on this forum.

Stop being a baby, and go back to bed.

are you still going on about the freeroll. why are you so bitter about a freeroll there are plenty of 1 stt on will hill or is that out of your league ::)

I'll leave it to Tikay to defend the independence/integrity of the site and its editorial

Suffice to say I could point you to a number of different threads criticising/questioning aspects of Crpto and its sites over the last few months.

As I didn't see your original thread I can't comment on the substance of your argument, but if it was expressed in an inflammatory manner then that would have been unacceptable. Many of the very regular posters have worked hard to ensure this forum does not have the flaming aspects that have spoilt elsewhere.

any way, who said it was an 'open forum?' this is a moderated forum and long may that continue.

Ive had a few people at my table in STT's lately that have been going nuts about willie hill and I just dont see the point, mental comments like "ITS FIXED" and "THEY ONLY WANT YOUR MONEY" well durr of course they do, but this isnt roulette once crypto / hills get the juice why would they care about who wins the OTHER players money. Total mad some of these online players ;D

I wouldnt mind but these are 5 & 10 STT's, if you get so annoyed losing these amounts go play the 1 tables! Ha ha

the thread got deleted when you got abusive towards the members of BLONDEPOKER.com

we have nothing to do with williamhills.yet you insulted us

if you want williamhills live help ring there freephone number or click on live chat on
http://www.williamhillpoker.com/index.php

now if you are unhappy that william hills has no support for users in the usa i suggest you talk to

george bush as its illegal to play poker in most parts of the usa

Ha ha very nice ironside, youve still got you quick fire witt i see, are you related to RED DOG

YOU obviously are just not smart enough to follow a conversation.

The complaint was exactly about the LACK OF SUPPORT AT WILLIAM HILL.

Now I wrote that SLOW, because you apparently can not read fast.

************ MY RESPONSE


Grow up.

And as I said, this site is a direct link FROM William Hill Poker software.

As far as i can see, this is ALL about William Hill and your phoney defense of a failing site.

The story should its failure of support, not your whining to defend it.

How soon will you delete this one fish?

someone ban this guy, this is the first rude poster we've had since we started.

there is no direct link from here to william hills

there is a link between poker 425 and here that ends in 3 days time

this forum discusses all the poker sites from party to stars to laddies to prima

we have reps here from bluesquare betfair and other major UK bookies

now on williiamhills.com you will find where it says free phone for support and you will also see a click here for live help

neither lead to this forum as this forum is part of blondepoker which is el blondies site and he has no link to crypto

infact he is sponsored by the UPL

now you have printed a pm from me so i will now delete the post as PM are private messages

Syrflop,

as a newbie you have kinda jumped in with a lot to say. I have been lurking and eventually joined this site. It is "THE" best forum both interms of people and topic.

The reason for that is everyone is entitled to their opinion and it is welcomed novice or pro. That said it is welcomed as long as its polite and  in a good spirit. In no way is anyone on here a william hill plant or bribed lackie...they`d be spotted a mile of and also its a forum so no one has to lwatch or post so why bother..we`s all growed up here
There are many sites that people comment on or discuss and on here you`ll often find 2 people with diametrically opposed views on a site. Thats life and the experiences are different. The one thing we do is stay POLITE and Friendly which is WHY it is the best forum.
Having a go personally is a waste of time even if you are frustrated and isnt worthy.

If you have been lurking on the site you`ll know its a great site and the wsop coverage and related blogs, experiences and insights priceless....so c`mon of the paranoid podium and tell us a joke....

right, is he still here, do you think he believed me, can i get my money know ;)

Mr Stapleton/Syrflop

I have already responded to your question by PM which you were rude enough to copy to the forum. I will once again give you the information to help you out.

The freephone number to contact William Hill customer servicefrom the US is 00180035513551, this is toll free.
The email addy for William Hill custmer service is customerservice@williamhill.co.uk

The thing I find very strange is that your main complaint appears to be that we have no contact facility available yet you registered an email with us on July 22nd on the email service above. This was answered by the CS operative.

What I cannot understand is this. If you are unhappy with the reply or would like to make another point why have you not contacted the CS dept again, you have chosen the best online Poker forum to act in a thoroughly rude and aggresive manner. If you did not want to contact the CS line again, I sent you a PM on Saturday afternoon with all the info you complained wasnt available, you could easily have PM me if you had any more questions.

The good news is that we will be adding our freerolls to the site again next week, so I do hope you can enjoy these as I underdstand they are very important to you.

Now my final suggestion is this, why not try to make your points and ask your questions in a polite and proper manner? This is a very friendly and helpful forum, indeed Ironside has given you the information you requested and all you have done is abuse him.

Enjoy your poker and by the way , I traced your user name and CS complaint to find your identity....tell me, do you have a job in the industry?

the plot thickens  8)

Aha!! So it's not just because he didn't get his free roll buy in refunded.  ;D ;D

I didn't see the deleted post.

I feel like i've missed the first episode of an exciting two part drama.  ???

the last thread was deleted when he got abusive and any future abuse towards blondites will result in a ban

william hills has made it clear how to contact them as i have also tried to if he isnt willing to listen to advice then

its his own fault

Sryflop

Welcome to Blondepoker.com Forum

I guess we maybe in for 6 weeks of abuse
or whenever the Kids go back to School  :-* :-*   

I can not believe that people think there is a biase in here. I believe I was amongst the first couple of memebers to sign up and have NEVER seen that. I voiced a concern about Wm Hill previously and it was answered very quickly on here to my satisfaction. I also wrote to them about a matter and again it was dealt with within the hour. This is quicker than most. (although not all ;-). Kudo to Wm Hill and Blonde for the way this matter has been handled.

so this guy gets abusive towards us blondites? then complains when it gets deleted?? erm ok..

This has to be the best forum of any kind due to the fun banter between us all, i have seen no biase whatsoever as we have a large ammount or people who play on almost every site and w ehave players here sponsored by other sites. Blonde has no actual assosiation with any sie the poker 425 link is for a short period only.

Anyway why am i explaining all this to an arsehole?>? just ban him

I saw the original thread and i must say he was not abusive towards folks here, just william hill, now while i agree we don't need tossers like him here we also don't wanna censor folks, this in itself can lead to further problems.
We all have our opinions of certain sites etc and we all should be allowed to voice them, the posts he made here are actually abusive and yes i'd kick him forever but the spam we are starting to attract is much worse IMO,
Ian

So why did the thread get deleted as I didn't think Syrflop was offensive to any member of the forum in their orginal thread and as a result can understand their frustration.


Indeed it is a moderated forum but where is it's appeal if we are not given freedom of speech and allowed to discuss all issues of poker whether they be negative or positive as long as people don't get offensive towards eachother. I do not feel Syrflop was rude to another poster, upto the posts I had read, and think they have a valid point to question why the thread was removed. I have also experienced numerous problems with William Hill customer service such as VERY slow withdrawal payment (21 days) and being lied to re: the status of my withdrawal. I also had my account hacked into and had no response to my claim for almost two months. The fraud issue was only dealt with after I expressed my concerns via this public forum and Bobby1 read them. This was then sorted out very quickly, to which I am gratefully but do still feel some frustrated that it took someone to respond to a negative public post rather than William Hill customer services showing any interest prior to Bobby1 shoving a rocket up there arse. Even now I still wait responses re: the slow payment and why I was lied to by several members of William Hills customer service team but doubt these issues will ever be addressed.

A forum grows on basis that people can express themselves and discuss various matters whether a popular value or not. Yes, moderate the site and keep it clean of personal attacks as it's the friendly discussion which makes this forum one off the best.

valid point diceman, as long as he was not offensive to a single member of the forum then i think its acceptable to let off a bit of steam on a forum, at the end of the day some people may be interested in hearing a rant.....

he posts started off abusing william hills his final post in the thread was abusive towards blondites  this lead me to delete the whole thread within 60 seconds of it being post

Why the whole thread?
He had a valid point/argument.

because once you loose you're voice, all opinions must go, not just the unpalatable ones. hopefuly this isn't going to spiral into a freedom of speech thread. By becoming abusive the guy got banned. once banned he is silenced (on this board only) and all his posts are removed. the thread wouldn't make much sense without his posts so the lot may as well go. lets just move on

the guy isnt banned but the thread was closed

A couple of points:-
Firstly i have always been in favour of a modded forum as we don't want this place to go the way others have. I actually nominated ironside for the job in other threads  ;D
Secondly i didn't see a personally abusive post from the fella but even so he had a valid point that was removed.
By all means kick the abusers into touch but freedom of speech is essential,
Ian :-*

if an abusive poster raises valid point in amongst abuse I believe censoring and cherry picking that persons views is FAR worse than removing the lot.

Freedom of speech is not a right, it's a privilage. Very few posts have been removed since this forum started and if one is, it's not done by concensus, it's done by poeple at the top who, long ago should have earned our trust. We have no reason to question the integrity of the people moderating this forum and such decisions that are made should be, and I'm sure are final.

He was not abusive until his last post apparently but sod it point made.
Freedom of speech is not a right? hmmm have i been transported to North Korea?
I'll agree to disagree, love you xxx
Ian

AS I SAID 3 times. the link is FROM, FROM FROM, FROM William Hill Directly to here. What about FROM is confusing to you?  ****FROM**** William Hill here, GOT IT YET?

NO ONE EVER SAID from HERE to William Hill.

I sure hope you use that intelligence to play at cash tables.

How soon will you delete this too?

Why are you so afraid of your "private message" from being shown?  Ah, your ignorance will be known. hahahahahahahahahahaaaa  you guys are too funny.

"Freedom of speech is not a right, it's a privilage." WHAT WHAT WHAT??????

Just what country are you from? It is a BASIC HUMAN RIGHTon this planet. What is the color of the sky in your world?

Free speech is not a right on a privately owned forum. Heck we don't even have free speech in this country and I doubt you do in America.

I don't want to get too complex and confuse you but the clue to that one might be in the name...

My thoughts on the subject.....

Syrflop may indeed have had a genuine grievance, however the way his original post came across was very aggressive and defamatory. Now that is not a crime in itself, but when he was offered help via personal messeges and emails, he re-published them on the forum and was indeed abusive towards the members of this forum.

As subsequent posts have inferred that perhaps this person is "in the industry" maybe , just maybe, he has an ulterior motive.

As said by many many people that use this forum... This is a fun, friendly, interesting and downright entertaining place to hang out while either playing on line , or following friends and/or poker pro's in live tournament updates, and i for one will fight tooth and nail to keep it that way (as i know will many others)

 The membership is growing rapidly, and im almost certain that the growing numbers are attracted by the very attributes I mentioned above ... We as "regulars" and frequent contributors to this forum should be proud of what we have helped create, and if by keeping it that way we upset one or two "bad apples" then i certainly wont lose any sleep over that.

Just my thoughts for what they are worth.

Kev.

Pretty funny how you claim to have NO CONNECTION to William Hill but are looking up player names and registrations, and then defending the schedules for William Hill.

and AGAIN, that NUMBER is NOT TOLL FREE. (there are too many number after the "800" which means IT DOES'NT WORK   So it Does NOT Work in the United States and you are LYING again when you re-post the same lie over and over. There is NO Customer support to speak of, NO TELEPHONE NUMBER that works, and NO EMAIL that is faster than 3 days.

I have proven my point, and you delete it to hide it.

I agree with Kev, very eloquently put :)

Bobby1 has never said that he has no connection to William Hill  ???

You misunderstand Syrflop, the site/forum have no connection to william hills, the poster of that message is a manager of william hills and subsequently has a connection.
Wasn't this originally about canceling freerolls without notice/advertising?
Ian

BTW others have reprinted PERSONAL (not private) messages in the past but i won't mention names ;D

*****we have nothing to do with williamhills.yet you insulted us*****

What is it about that phrase that makes me think there is supposed to be NO connection to William Hill?

The deleted thread from Bobby said the same thing.

Now IS THERE a direct connection where SHE can find my registration?  or is there a fraud going on where she hacked into William Hill to get my regstration?

Bobby is a member of this forum, like me or you. Bobby has no connection with the running of this site (i.e. Blondepoker). Bobby is a poker manager at William Hill.

I think that's right?

Dear oh Dear

Talk about mountains out of Molehills

Jeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzz :o

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Bored..... let's not encourage him to much he might also get bored and go away

Syrflopy  :-*

I doubt it, he'll keep banging on until his conspiracy is proven... ;)

ok mate, obviously you are unable/unwilling to understand what is basically a simple concept.
Once upon a time a couple of fellas decided they wanted to right wrongs in the world, rescue damsels in distress and kill maneating tigers and wrestle aligators, well good intentions aside they decided the best way to do this was to open a poker site and attached to the said site is a forum where ANYBODY on the planet could contribute with their advice and opinions, caould vent their frustrations and generally talk rubbish with other similar simpleminded folks.
Now, here's the tricky bit:-


Any clearer?

Ho hum

Well if anything interesting happens here, please tell me as I will not be bothering with this thread for now.

We'll send round some black helicopters mate.

it  was explianed earlier in the topic that william hills customer line was for the UK and there wasn't one for US customers at present. now you know how us brits feel when having to ring america for customer service on american sites, maybe if you had been less rude someone may have gone to the trouble of actually helping you out a bit, not much chance of that now tho is there?


Can't we close this?

So an entire thread was deleted because of one post that nobody saw other than the person who deleted it. I firstly question why that meant an entire thread had to be removed and not just the post in question. The person in question could then have been warned of his actions and PM'ed as to why their post was removed. Instead we have cenorship of a valid discussion point. This is then defended by Adam who claims we should not question the action and that freedom of speech is not a right.

So Ironside made the decision to delete the whole thread rather than just the post and issue a warning to the poster re: their future conduct. That is his decision. Should Ironside of then made the statement to Syrflop re: George Bush and poker in America. Whilst I'm sure this was merely a flippant joke and I'm sure many of you will defend him as that is the case it can be argued that such a comment did nothing more than to antagonise Syrflop, an individual who was already had a grievance. Is this acceptable?. It's a grey area when you start playing Big Brother yet post replies that MAY antagonise others.

I defend the site needs to be kept clean from becoming a forum of personal abuse but we should be allowed to freely discuss varies issues whether they are popular or not and without the fear of censorship. Otherwise your likely to see new members not bothering to post as the site becomes nothing more than a chat room for the old boys network.

I hope this thread continues. Brushing it under the carpet would be a mistake. With the continuing increase in members, a similar situation is bound to crop up again.

Keep smiling all.  :D

When this forum was in its infancy I became instantly attracted to it because it was exactly what poker fans and players like myself needed. A good honest flame free forum. Forums do not stay that way for long and Tikay contacted me on one occasion to answer a post that needed information regarding William Hill, I was polite enough to check with Tikay that it was ok to let it be known to forum members that I worked for William Hill to reassure the recipient of the PM that I was indeed in a position to help him. I have in fact always told forum members that I work for William Hill since that day. The reason for this is I do not want people to think that my only reason for posting here is business related(spamming) and I try to act in a spam free manner. I am sure I will be pulled up if I ever go down that route.

I have also answered queires about Cryptologic that I am not really in a position to comment on but as I had the answer to questions I passed on what I knew about this subject.

The original post from this poster was fair to a point, the freeroll problem we have had was discussed on this forum but of course that does not reach everyone and the players are quite within their rights to expect a listed freeroll to start. The problem has actually been eradicated by the work done on that evening.

What I do feel is unfair is the derogatory comments by the poster to other members of this forum, William Hill are guests on this forum, we do not have any control, we added this to the poker425 site because it has qualities that other forum lack, I have in fact seen many names and players from other poker message boards and other poker sites arriving here and contributing without the baggage that accompanies other foum.

Now, I apologise to the poster for letting him down regarding the freeroll but the  other points are factually incorrect, I have pointed this out to him , firstly by PM as I did not want to correct 90% of his thread in public, this was printed on the forum so I again pointed out the incorrect messages he had repeated.

 I did realise that posting in my official capacity could open me up to abuse and I know that the next time William Hill have any problems I may be in the firing line but I chose to answer threads to help, if these threads are done in the correct manner and not for mischevious reasons I will be happy to help.

anyone can be make comments about any site or casino good or bad as long as they are factual, nobody is aloowed to flame anyone on this forum and posts have been deleted that have been open flames before (1 was done as a joke about a good mate of the flamers but deleted due to the offensive language and tone)

now syrflop started a thread here that was left he got help from a person senior at billy hills and advice from blondites, he chose to ignore that and got abusive so after thinking about it choose to remove the whole thread,

i sent him a private message explaining that he was being abusive and not too any future abuse aimed at anyone will result in the thread/post being deleted and his account blocked

as i have told him before 0800 numbers are free in uk (where william hills target market) they also have an online live help, he seems to think that this is william hills forum and that we blondites are all billy hill stoogies the fact i dont have an account will billy hill doesnt seem to matter

bobby1 reads this forum as he likes to be treated as a blondite and doesnt have to help out with complaints about his site just as the reps from bluesq betfair or stars dont but out of the kindness of the hearts try to help blondites

let me confirm that this forum isnt and has never been william hills forum it is blondite forum and for july its sponsored by poker 425 (tv show that is on the william hills channel) as far as i understand there is no direct link from the william hills software to this forum although there is an indirect link via poker425, there is no link to this forum from the william hills website i know i went thru all that gambling garbage yesterday to check and if syrflop wants to get abusive to william hills i suggest he uses the live chat or the freephone number and abuse them that way and let william hills deal with the abuse there own way, also as far as i am aware bobby1 is a he not a she.

finally the reason sryflop doesnt see a phone number for the usa on william hills site is because legally william hills doesnt market players in the usa, infact i was amazed they allow players from the usa on there software i know ladbrookes doesnt, the remark about george bush is not a joke its true how can customer support be offered in a satisfactory way when the activity they are taking part in is illegal in there country, you dont see me going up to the local citzens advice asking for help with the bad joint i got in amsterdam and wanting my money back (not that i have ever partaken in drugs in holland or anywhere else in the world).

my advice would be to lobby the usa government to legalise poker and then you might get a better service in the usa and not having to contact customer services through a UK TOLL FREE number

Hi guys, I know I'm preaching to the converted here but to put it simply.
- It's not what you say it's the way you say it. -
If somebody repeatedly makes posts that upset other members then they will be removed. We are all grown up and can cope with opposing and different points of view, but I'm not prepared to be associated with any nastieness. This isn't about freedom of speach its about being civil human beings.

ironside, in all fairness to syrflop when you pull up will hills software there is a link thats pops up so you can get directed to this forum

syrflop although you can get here via will hill, will hill do not own or have control over this site. bobby1 was kind enough to answer your complaint although he didnt have too. i hope you get your greivence sorted out but ranting on here wont get it done.