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The BBC:

Positives:

Gary Lineker...smooth, professional, sardonic, knowledgeable. Leicester boy

Martin O'Neill: Brilliant, slightly spoilt by taking four minutes to answer every question

Alan Hansen: Top pundit

Motty: Not everyone's cup of tea, but an icon

Jonathan Pearce: Improved tons as a commentator, now does a nice line in irony.

Barry Davies "Oh I say"..still a great commentator

Radio5Live: all of it, fantastic radio station

Negatives:

Alan Shearer: Sends me to sleep, but knows his stuff

Mark Lawrenson: like chalk on a blackboard

Garth Crooks: So earnest and serious it makes me want to get him very drunk and let him loose in a Lion enclosure

Graeme Le Saux: Not a fan

Ray Stubbs: Horrendous

Hazel Irvine: makes me want to scream whatever she is presenting, so wholesome I want to throw her off a cliff


ITV

Positives:

Gabby Logan: Yes indeed

Ruud Gullit: Top pundit

Terry Venables: Seen it done it, slightly spoilt by gratuitous cheeky chappy cockney moments

Peter Drury: Excellent underrated commentator trained on 5 live

Negatives

AllyMcCoist: stick to light entertainment, gruesome punditry

Andy Townsend: How does he still get onto panels for events like this. Hopeless

Clive Tyldesley: Not a patch on the BBC commentators

Jon Champion: second rate motty like commentator

Jim Beglin: Non descript colour man


Give me the BBC any day


Your opinions?

 

Alan Hansen always sounds like he has just come back from the pub

Its all just pictures for me - Radio Five all the way here (and if you have the pictures through digital and radio on its all perfect on the timing front these days).

But your summary looks spot on to me Mr Tight.

Why are Gareth Crooks and Townsend employed ? - hope for us all I guess.

Agreed Tighty Beeb for me. The boy Linekar has come along way since his early appearances. O'Neill is a top pundit, & not afraid to look at the game with a more philosophical slant.

I discovered yesterday that if you press the Red button whilst watching on BBC1, you have a choice of commentaries

BBC
R5L
None at all



Smashing!

Why do the BBC stick with Ian Wright?
Apart from offering enthusiasm when England are going well, he offers nothing at all.  Should never have been allowed back after his petulant performance after N.Ireland beat England.
Are the BBC not allowed to bring in writers from newspapers as experts?
Henry Winter (Daily Telegraph) should be there alongside Hansen. They are the best two analysts IMO.

As for ITV.... They have adverts, so you dont get time for in depth analysis.

How could I forget the idiot that is Ian Wright?...jingoistic one dimensional court jester figure

complete waste of space on a panel.


and if I see Peter Reid this world cup on a panel I will NOT be responsible for my actions

At least neither channel has Jamie Redknapp  >:?

Lets not get onto Sky and TalkSport punditry.... ;goodvevil;


Jamie Redknapp....ugh

I only ever watch ITV for the Grand Prix.  I hate that channel.  Although SKYONE is worse.   I like BBC, it is better and also doesn't have adverts.  My vote is for BBC.  It's a shame Nemesis isn't here, he could have done a poll  :D

I only posted it because Nemesis is away.


ITV GP coverage...immeasurably better with Steve Rider rather than that clown Jim Rosenthal though

and Brundle is THE best colour/expert commentator

Motson & Tyldesley should both be shot...twice...just to make sure

BBC pictures either with crowd noise or 5live commentary. Only probs with the 5live feed is the slight delay & Alan Green is murder.

My all time favourite English commentator was David Coleman. He actually commentated without overdoing the stats & opinions he was just straight to the point

 "Kempes... 1 nil!" Brilliant  :)

Yea, I agree about Steve Rider.  He is better than Rosenthal.   I remember Steve Rider used to introduce GP back when BBC used to show it before ITV got it in 97.


Nemesis was back in the UK  yesterday.  We may still get a poll  :D

Steve Rider is much better that Jim 'boring' Rosenthal.
The golf on the BBC isn't the same without him presenting it.
He's come a long way since 'World of Sport'

I'm also a big fan of Steve Rider and its a shame he has left the BBC and left us with idiots like Motson and Lawrenson.

As for the world Cup well, BBC for me all the way sure I hate how everything turns to England even when they are not playing, it does my tits in but they have no breaks which I despise and they have humoour and wit on the pannel.

When does wee Strachan come on though?

John Inverdale is good as well

Yes..Yes  Thank the lord for that!!

Pretty boy!!!  nothing else!!!

 Td Th

Yeah if your an English rugby fan

Just off to rewatch my DVD of "the games" with Kirsty Gallacher in a leotard.


Before that I leave you with another thought.......Robbie Earle as football pundit....why?

Quick question, can you watch it live online, I have been to BBC sports, can't find the link although they talk about it a lot.

???  >:?

Whilst i agree she is pleasing to the eye she is to football what cadbury's are to the fireguard industry.

F'ing useless...........

The day I ever answer ITV to this question is the day I shoot myself in the head.

Sheriff

Yes it's there, BBC Sports/football/world cup/live video

Beeb of course.

I miss Nemesis.. we need a poll for this.

eurosport ones are good , tim caple being the best

to be honest i really cant listen to any of them, the are all shockingly Biased

100% agree with this!

Robbie is the distillation of all that is wrong with many football pundits. He states the blindingly obvious, using a lexicon that is easily surpassed by the majority of intelligent 10 year olds.

He comes across as a nice guy but that just ain't enough!

ditto andy townsend..ditto alan shearer..ditto a number of others.

Get Tank, Jen or Padraig Parkinson doing the analysis rather than these hordes of insipid, unimaginative ex footballers and we'd finally inject some colour and humour into the commentary.

Having said that, Gary Linekar is a very competant link man. It's a measure of his competency that the shocking puns he comes out with (seems like he has cut down a bit on this) don't grate as much as they should. Also Martin O' Neill offers much greater depth to his analysis than most. WHY DIDN'T HE GET THE ENGLAND JOB!!!!!!

Quote of the day.....

Paul Robinson, dressed in bright yellow goalie kit, rushes out to obstruct paraguay striker from shooting.

Mark Lawrenson..."It must've been like being attacked by a giant banana!"

This quote is the last thing i remember about an instantly forgetable second half - i spent the rest of my table fantasizing about being confronted by a 6ft banana. Just imagine how long it would take to eat that!!!

Yum Yum......

Ian Wright is excellent, good to see someone with true passion when it comes to footie.
I just don't understand why they get non Englishmen to analyse England games, daft.

To give the rest of us a break from their f***ing inherrent ramblings about how great England are.  TBH I'd rather watch the coverage in German!

LMAO

Nice one Bandit  :D

I don't get people's beef with Ian Wright. He says things others wont because he isn't afraid to.

I loved the Hansen - O'Neill arguments 4 years ago - where are they now eh? Shearer is ok if not a bit dull.

The commentary booth consists of Motson and Lawrenson though. Heaven help me.

Don't even get me started on ITV.

doing the opening ceremony....and also today.....lol

The best viewing so far Dave! LOL!

Like Stuart Pearce in the studio on ITV. Jay Jay Okocha has legs like tree-trunks too (courtesy of my feminine side, that observation)

also Mick McCarthy is surprisingly good as the analyst for games on BBC...I like it when the guys get into tactics and playing styles, except if it is David Pleat.

Agreed Tighty. I dislike McCarthy as a manager/moaner, but his analysis is spot on.

I like McCarthy both as a manager and his analysis of the game. 

He knows what he's talking about, he was a decent manager done well with Ireland done well with sunderland in Division one but the board never backed him with any cash so it was inevitable they where going back down.

I also can't stand Pleat, you know when he's on I think God I wish they'd bring back ron.

I agree, hope he doesn't get axed because of his lack of fluency in conveying his opinions.


 :D

Will need to work on the stutter first. Or maybe that could be my gimmick.

I enjoy the Budweiser segments in the ad breaks of ITV's coverage. They tickle my funny bone.

Perhaps they will get annoying by the contest's conclusion, time will tell.

He is a terrible manager.

Oh crikey don't get Bandit started again. Its a small step from McCarthy to Roy Keane, Scottish tartan armies and English press bias and how crap we are and how Scotland are fantastic.

He never mentions Ally McLeod, Alan Rough or Rab Douglas though.

Don't blame me when he kicks off  :D


p.s Welcome back Nemesis. Nice holiday I trust.

Yes it was, thanks. :)up

ITV are an embarassment, surely they can find better,I cannot think of anything good to say about them   :redcard:

This guy John Champion really is my least favourite commentator, he makes my toes curl with his patronising style.

 :tikay: :tikay: :tikay:

I agree ITV are poor.

Motson/Lawrenson aside the Beeb are way ahead.

I agree 100%/

ITV's main commentator gets right on my nerves, I've forgot his name, such an irritating...

I can understand why all 5 match officials are wearing these new technology lightweight headsets - but why on earth are all the ITV broadcast team wearing them?!?!?!?! I can understand earpieces but why on earth are they wearing headsets that look as though they've been surgicly implanted on their faces?

Bizarre.......

David Pleat.




Why?

Not David Pleat. The actual commentator not famous sidekick.

He isn't commentating now, he was for the Spain game.

No I was just asking why he existed. ;goodvevil;

He use to be quite imformative, now he is just boring.

Mick McCarthy.   I am not a fan of his voice

 :goodpost:

When he played for Celtic you could here him bellowing over the crowd noise when shouting at his team mates. It was like listening to a sealions mating call....apparently!

i added a poll, just curious if anyone votes ITV!

No doubt you will Flushy, not that I'm suggesting that you're contrary or anything........ ::)

Twas me, I like my adverts.  8)

Nem is referring to Clive Tyldesley


Horrendous commentator


Really flat hair do that makes him look like Herman Munster


Comes from Manchester, learnt his trade on "Big Match" at Granada TV


Horrendous commentator


Thats foru reasons to really dislike him

Thats him  ;tracet;

But his shout was ridiculously high, you'd think he'd too small a jock strap on.

I remember an away game where for some reason there was a lull in the crowd noise and he happened to shout at the same time - then the whole away end burst out laughing - he turned and glared which got us all laughing more  :D

Gareth Southgate - WHY?

Dull, nasal, patronising & repeatedly states the obvious.

How did he manage to get a gig at the WC?

Agreed


Southgate and Tyldesley....what an awful combination. Quite dreadful.

When Motty does his eccentric stuff at least you know he's nuts. When Tyldesley starts quoting lines from "Jerusalem" and then leaving a pause I just want to hire a hitman.

Any contributors to the fund I will start?


Quite a fan of Stuart Pearce in the half time discussions though

I'm sure that Tyldesley watches a different game to the one he talks about

The studio pundits at ITV were spot on but they're all managers so they should be.

Commentators need shooting.

LOL