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Title: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on June 30, 2006, 10:39:16 PM Hi folks, check out this:
http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3003 (http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3003) If you have any questions or comments for Rob 'Rob S' Sherwood, then feel free to post them on this thread and I'll direct him over here to answer. Hope you enjoy his diary. I've already had a read, and it's cracking stuff. Great to hear the hand analysis, truly fascinating. Also, you may be interested to know who he's being spotting at the craps tables. Enjoy! (To access Rob's diary, simply click 'diaries' in the 'poker articles' section in the banner's menu bar at the top of this screen. Then select WSOP 2006) Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: sharpy on June 30, 2006, 11:19:51 PM Absolute quality Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: mikee_j on July 01, 2006, 02:32:10 AM brilliant stuff! keep it coming
Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: Scottish Dave on July 01, 2006, 01:48:03 PM just read the first three entries, so far so great, i like the fact it aint just poker hands etc, i like the vegas descriptions, bar food joints, night outs etc, really gives you a feel for what vegas really has to offer for the "social side of poker" Reg. TM - Chubbs, BB1, Brummie
Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: Bigfella on July 01, 2006, 01:57:29 PM Great reading. I'm off to vegas on 12 July and after reading this blog I think I'll head straight to the stt's at the Rio! Good luck Sherwood look forward to hearing more.
Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: ACE2M on July 02, 2006, 10:21:39 AM good stuff.
Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: suzanne on July 02, 2006, 07:24:40 PM Great read :)up
Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: Simon Galloway on July 02, 2006, 11:51:41 PM Question to throw over to Rob....
In the old days at Binions they used to pay out in $500 lammers which were easily re-saleable amongst players. Is it the same at the Rio or does 1 person have to enter into the event and buy the other player out in a chop? Ta! Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on July 03, 2006, 05:41:10 AM Rob Sherwood's latest entry (Day 5 and 6 review) is not up. Click the link below to read or, alternatively, visit our 'diaries' section in 'poker articles' of the banner's menu bar.
Also, to Simon, I have made Rob aware of your question. I'm sure he'll post an answer on this thread next time he's online. cheers all Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on July 03, 2006, 05:41:31 AM Rob Sherwood's latest entry (Day 5 and 6 review) is not up. Click the link below to read or, alternatively, visit our 'diaries' section in 'poker articles' of the banner's menu bar.
http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3017 (http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3017) Also, to Simon, I have made Rob aware of your question. I'm sure he'll post an answer on this thread next time he's online. cheers all Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: RobS on July 03, 2006, 07:04:45 AM Question to throw over to Rob.... In the old days at Binions they used to pay out in $500 lammers which were easily re-saleable amongst players. Is it the same at the Rio or does 1 person have to enter into the event and buy the other player out in a chop? Ta! Thanks for the comments, glad people are enjoying it. Simon it's exactly the same, all single table tournaments are paid out in $500 tournament lammers, which are easily re-saleable. For example I have been playing $525 buy-in tournaments. The prize pool is simply 10 x $500 tournament lammers and for some reason $120 in cash. So out of a $5,250 prize pool the house only takes $130. Not sure why the house fee is so low but the low rake makes them even more profitable. Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: Simon Galloway on July 03, 2006, 09:00:25 AM Cheers Rob. I think the idea of working out a buy-in that leaves a smidgeon of cash on top is so that the players can't have an "I don't have any cash on me" excuse when it comes to looking after the dealer. In a standard chop h/u, you receive $60 each and on a $2500 slice it doesn't seem unreasonable to just leave it for the dealer, but I seem to remember that there was a "standard" tip that was the norm - just can't remember how much!
Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: Royal Flush on July 03, 2006, 08:03:38 PM Cheers Rob. I think the idea of working out a buy-in that leaves a smidgeon of cash on top is so that the players can't have an "I don't have any cash on me" excuse when it comes to looking after the dealer. In a standard chop h/u, you receive $60 each and on a $2500 slice it doesn't seem unreasonable to just leave it for the dealer, but I seem to remember that there was a "standard" tip that was the norm - just can't remember how much! Thats just plain crap if thats the case. Why don't they just pay the dealer properly in the first place! Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: marcro on July 03, 2006, 08:10:07 PM Cheers Rob. I think the idea of working out a buy-in that leaves a smidgeon of cash on top is so that the players can't have an "I don't have any cash on me" excuse when it comes to looking after the dealer. In a standard chop h/u, you receive $60 each and on a $2500 slice it doesn't seem unreasonable to just leave it for the dealer, but I seem to remember that there was a "standard" tip that was the norm - just can't remember how much! Thats just plain crap if thats the case. Why don't they just pay the dealer properly in the first place! It is definitely the case - the cash is to tip the dealer. US culture expects tipping in the service industry and dealers are considered part of this. Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: Scottish Dave on July 04, 2006, 05:08:35 PM I feel the same way as Junior on this one, (see juniors blog entry) regarding tipping, ill only tip it the person deserves it, if not, they can run and jump!
Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on July 04, 2006, 10:53:55 PM Check out Rob Sherwood's latest entry.
Can't believe someone who's won as much as Cloutier is resorting to nipping. So sad as I am a big Cloutier fan. Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: Royal Flush on July 05, 2006, 02:19:35 AM Cheers Rob. I think the idea of working out a buy-in that leaves a smidgeon of cash on top is so that the players can't have an "I don't have any cash on me" excuse when it comes to looking after the dealer. In a standard chop h/u, you receive $60 each and on a $2500 slice it doesn't seem unreasonable to just leave it for the dealer, but I seem to remember that there was a "standard" tip that was the norm - just can't remember how much! Thats just plain crap if thats the case. Why don't they just pay the dealer properly in the first place! It is definitely the case - the cash is to tip the dealer. US culture expects tipping in the service industry and dealers are considered part of this. For $120 i will deal the fricking thing myself! Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: julian on July 05, 2006, 11:15:11 AM good skills rob,
tell me, is TJ sporting that tight perm this year or are the straighteners still working for him? Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: RobS on July 06, 2006, 12:24:05 AM good skills rob, tell me, is TJ sporting that tight perm this year or are the straighteners still working for him? The straighteners appear to be doing the job! Regarding tipping, I've never seen a dealer being tipped the full $120, $40-$60 seems to be the norm. Part of the culture and I have no problem with it, particularly as the rake is so small. The $525 satellites are in effect $512 +$13 rake whereas the equivalent buy-in on Pokerstars is $525 + $30. Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: Simon Galloway2 on July 06, 2006, 10:42:23 AM Regarding tipping, I've never seen a dealer being tipped the full $120, $40-$60 seems to be the norm. Part of the culture and I have no problem with it, particularly as the rake is so small. The $525 satellites are in effect $512 +$13 rake whereas the equivalent buy-in on Pokerstars is $525 + $30. Yes that sounds about right, the sats in Binions used to be at the right level for the following day's event, so sometimes they would be $200, $300 or $500. When it came to tiping, I found it often was discussed as part of the chop.With roughly equal chips you might agree a straight chop and the norm is that you both leave the same tip. With a moderately disproportionate stack I have seen offers of "a straight chop but you take care of the tip" And for massively uneven chips it may take a lammer or two to even it up! As for the tipping culture, each to their own, but I don't understand the attitude of "I wouldn't tip at home so I'm not tipping here" - you aren't at home and you might want to try and adopt the local culture. No wonder when I go on holiday to Turkey alll I can find is "Full English Breakfast" in the "Kings Arms" - they are getting used to all the Brits that willfully refuse to adapt! Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: Royal Flush on July 06, 2006, 03:43:04 PM I have no problem with tipping, i would rather they would just pay them a decent wage in the first place. I always tip in Vegas,
Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: Simon Galloway2 on July 06, 2006, 04:27:30 PM Fine- not looking for any arguments, it is a personal matter after all. But fwiw, here's my take on the "decent wage" scenario, using a restaurant to illustrate:
Case A: The owner decides he can pay a decent wage and put a steak on the menu for $30. So no tip required, but you can choose to tip outstanding service if you like. Case B: The owner decides that he wants to ensure high levels of service, so he witholds the equivalent of $5 wages per steak. He can now put the steak on the menu at $25 and have an unwritten rule that customers should leave the remaining $5 only if the service has warranted it. My take on it is that I am more likely to enjoy myself under case B. Converting to the Rio, I think it reasonable to look after a dealer in a satellite that could have been dealing a cash game. There still is a limit, for example in the tournys where they have already taken out a dealers pool, I would tip, but not very much, enough to take their tip up to 4-5% which is my judgement on where I am comfortable. Vegas can certainly get out of hand regarding tipping. Opening taxi doors for example hardly seems worth a tip. But then the guy isn't just opening the door - he is marshalling the taxi line and getting you on your way quicker than you otherwise would. In the UK you are probably still stuck in the hotel lobby trying to get someone not really interested to call you a cab... Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: The Baron on July 06, 2006, 05:29:20 PM I found that what you lost in tipping you gained in free beer!
A $1 tip for a beer? Amen. Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: Royal Flush on July 06, 2006, 07:26:54 PM Yeah i always took the line that i tipped what i would spend on drinks!
Infact i got in a 'tip war' last time i went, seeing who could tip the most, lol. I just dont see the similarity between a waiter and a dealer. Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: lazaroonie on July 07, 2006, 01:50:19 AM where you really lose out in the us, is when playing low level cash - everytime you get dealt a decent (winning hand) you are almost expected to tip the dealer 5 bucks or something reasonable in relation to the pot. I mean the pot is already getting raked, so youare getting done up twice.
hardly makes the games worth playing to be honest. Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on July 07, 2006, 05:39:12 AM sry to break up the debate guys, but just letting you know that Rob Sherwood's latest entry is now up...
http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3131 (http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3131) Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: ACE2M on July 07, 2006, 12:11:04 PM Loving this diary, great read. Shame theres no cloutier updates, why do i want to hear about a great players failings? not sure but i really do.
Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on July 07, 2006, 02:28:31 PM Loving this diary, great read. Shame theres no cloutier updates, why do i want to hear about a great players failings? not sure but i really do. I'll let you know when I have a bad day if u like Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: GlasgowBandit on July 07, 2006, 03:40:21 PM Excellent reading, great coup by Blonde to get Rob doing a regular diary.
Snoop any more diaries planned? Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on July 07, 2006, 05:59:59 PM Excellent reading, great coup by Blonde to get Rob doing a regular diary. Snoop any more diaries planned? yep, they're all here... http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/2996 (http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/2996) Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on July 08, 2006, 02:21:00 PM introducing Rob's latest entry...
http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3154 (http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3154) If anyone has any thoughts regarding the K-Q hand, then please post them here and I'll notify Rob of your comments. cheers snoops snoopy Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: matt674 on July 08, 2006, 02:36:29 PM Out of curiosity, why is badpab's picture on rob's latest diary entry? ???
Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on July 08, 2006, 02:45:12 PM Out of curiosity, why is badpab's picture on rob's latest diary entry? ??? lol oopsy daisy it's early for me ;tk; Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: matt674 on July 08, 2006, 02:47:32 PM well as beagle's sleep for three quarters of every day - its always early for you!! ;)
Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on July 10, 2006, 12:39:48 AM latest entry...
http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3192 (http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3192) Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on July 13, 2006, 12:41:58 AM Rob's latest entry is now up.
http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3224 (http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3224) By the way, as well as using the menu bar, you can also access all the wsop diaries from the main page. They are near the bottom, just below Dave's. Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on July 15, 2006, 08:36:02 AM For those following Rob's wsop diary, his latest entry is now up...
All the diaries are available from the main site hompeage, including el blondie's! Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on July 19, 2006, 06:09:43 AM Entry #11 is now up.
Once again, any questions for Rob, please post them here... http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3272 (http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3272) Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on July 21, 2006, 09:17:21 AM Rob's latest entry is a MUST read.
Everyone loves a good rant, especially me. Now go and read! QUICK MARCH!!! http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3340 (http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/3340) Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: ripple11 on July 21, 2006, 09:43:05 AM Right Snoops....great read!. 5 aces in a pack..... :o.....I now know what to pack first!!! ;D Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: Colchester Kev on July 21, 2006, 11:16:25 AM LOL Brilliant brilliant brilliant ... I love listening to people rant, especially when every word is spot on ... great stuff keep it coming.
Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: Swordpoker on July 22, 2006, 06:49:55 AM Can't wait for his next one!
Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on July 28, 2006, 05:22:18 AM Rob's latest entries are now up.
Go check them out. That's an order!!! Now let me see your war face!!!!! Title: Re: NEW WSOP DIARY - SHERWOOD POKER Post by: snoopy1239 on August 02, 2006, 12:36:11 AM Rob's latest entry regarding how he made it through to Day 2 of the WSOP Main Event, is now up and ready to read.
So please do... http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/2998 (http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/2998) |