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Title: KK v AA.... Post by: mikee_j on July 28, 2006, 04:12:11 PM ------HAND 5------
Game #2036157133: Hold'em NL (10/20) - 2006/07/28 - 16:04:30 (GMT) Table "Tourney 3139346 - 14" Seat 4 is the button. Seat 1: dtcchilly (1420 in chips) Seat 2: -Mikee-J- (1490 in chips) Seat 3: Hvutt (1450 in chips) Seat 4: mixery (1440 in chips) Seat 5: yazoo (2000 in chips) Seat 6: Bamsey001 (1240 in chips) Seat 7: Chronicle (1550 in chips) Seat 8: flomme (1500 in chips) Seat 9: pearlss (1500 in chips) Seat 10: Babis13 (1410 in chips) yazoo: posts small blind 10 Bamsey001: posts big blind 20 ----- HOLE CARDS ----- dealt to -Mikee-J- [Ks Kh] Chronicle: raises to 80 flomme: folds pearlss: folds Babis13: folds dtcchilly: folds -Mikee-J-: raises to 200 Hvutt: folds mixery: calls 200 yazoo: folds Bamsey001: folds Chronicle: raises to 520 -Mikee-J-: calls 320 mixery: folds ----- FLOP ----- [7d 6d 9h] Chronicle: bets 540 -Mikee-J-: raises to 970 and is all-in Chronicle: calls 430 ----- TURN ----- [7d 6d 9h][3d] ----- RIVER ----- [7d 6d 9h 3d][Jh] ----- SHOW DOWN ----- -Mikee-J-: shows [Ks Kh] (A Pair of Kings, Jack high) Chronicle: shows [ Ahrt Aspades ] (A Pair of Aces, Jack high) Chronicle collects 3210 from Main pot 3rd or 4th hand in MTT, should i have known he had aces or did the hand really play itself? re-raising my raise preflop did raise some awareness. Title: Re: KK v AA.... Post by: Scottish Dave on July 28, 2006, 04:18:16 PM i dont think in a tourney like the one you were playing, i could ever lay down KK preflop, your looking at a 220-1 shot that your KK runs into AA, if you do, its just tough titty - altho at least you will know the next 219 times you get KK none of your opponents will have AA!
...Or at least thats how the law of averages on this planet is supposed to work Title: Re: KK v AA.... Post by: Royal Flush on July 28, 2006, 05:57:38 PM i dont think in a tourney like the one you were playing, i could ever lay down KK preflop, your looking at a 220-1 shot that your KK runs into AA, if you do, its just tough titty - altho at least you will know the next 219 times you get KK none of your opponents will have AA! ...Or at least thats how the law of averages on this planet is supposed to work True if its HU its 220-1, however it was a full ring table so the odds are much higher, throw in the drop in probability due to a re-raise (the range of hands is a lot tighter) then it is way below 220-1. Having said all that they are Kings! What i want to know is why on earth u flat call pre flop?!?! Title: Re: KK v AA.... Post by: I, Zimbra on July 28, 2006, 06:06:11 PM Yep, get it all-in preflop, then deep sigh and reach for the red pen when you see it's AA and not QQ or AK. (or, on Tribeca, J-J, 7-7, 9-8 suited... or pretty much anything else... ;goodvevil;)
Title: Re: KK v AA.... Post by: NoflopsHomer on July 28, 2006, 07:22:14 PM i dont think in a tourney like the one you were playing, i could ever lay down KK preflop, your looking at a 220-1 shot that your KK runs into AA, if you do, its just tough titty - altho at least you will know the next 219 times you get KK none of your opponents will have AA! ...Or at least thats how the law of averages on this planet is supposed to work True if its HU its 220-1, however it was a full ring table so the odds are much higher, throw in the drop in probability due to a re-raise (the range of hands is a lot tighter) then it is way below 220-1. Having said all that they are Kings! What i want to know is why on earth u flat call pre flop?!?! I nearly threw KK away once in a £30 SNG on Crypto, I raised in EP, got re-raised, I re-re-raised, he re-re-re-raised, and I thought "he has aces" so I moved all-in, he insta-called with the other two kings. I four-flushed. :D Title: Re: KK v AA.... Post by: Trix on July 29, 2006, 04:18:02 PM "I thought "he has aces" so I moved all-in"
er... :blonde: ^^^^^^ Title: Re: KK v AA.... Post by: NoflopsHomer on July 29, 2006, 04:43:38 PM "I thought "he has aces" so I moved all-in" er... :blonde: ^^^^^^ That was deliberate tongue-in-cheek... ;) Title: Re: KK v AA.... Post by: Table Manners on July 30, 2006, 05:29:37 AM i dont think in a tourney like the one you were playing, i could ever lay down KK preflop, your looking at a 220-1 shot that your KK runs into AA, if you do, its just tough titty - altho at least you will know the next 219 times you get KK none of your opponents will have AA! ...Or at least thats how the law of averages on this planet is supposed to work If you have KK and you're in a game with 9 other players. There is around a 1/24 that someone else at the table has AA Title: Re: KK v AA.... Post by: Trix on July 30, 2006, 05:31:22 PM "I thought "he has aces" so I moved all-in" er... :blonde: ^^^^^^ That was deliberate tongue-in-cheek... ;) oh :) Title: Re: KK v AA.... Post by: mikee_j on August 01, 2006, 08:39:33 PM i dont think in a tourney like the one you were playing, i could ever lay down KK preflop, your looking at a 220-1 shot that your KK runs into AA, if you do, its just tough titty - altho at least you will know the next 219 times you get KK none of your opponents will have AA! ...Or at least thats how the law of averages on this planet is supposed to work True if its HU its 220-1, however it was a full ring table so the odds are much higher, throw in the drop in probability due to a re-raise (the range of hands is a lot tighter) then it is way below 220-1. Having said all that they are Kings! What i want to know is why on earth u flat call pre flop?!?! so the play would have been to go over the top again and go allin? thanks for the advice Title: Re: KK v AA.... Post by: I, Zimbra on August 02, 2006, 06:52:13 PM I tend to feel that
- if I have KK and someone else has AA; or - if I have QQ and someone else has AA or KK, then it's just not my tournament. After all, if he does have AA, the only way you get away from your KK on the flop (realistically) is if an ace hits; and he has two of those already. So the most likely outcome is that it will go in on the flop anyway. Title: Re: KK v AA.... Post by: Royal Flush on August 02, 2006, 07:27:10 PM i dont think in a tourney like the one you were playing, i could ever lay down KK preflop, your looking at a 220-1 shot that your KK runs into AA, if you do, its just tough titty - altho at least you will know the next 219 times you get KK none of your opponents will have AA! ...Or at least thats how the law of averages on this planet is supposed to work True if its HU its 220-1, however it was a full ring table so the odds are much higher, throw in the drop in probability due to a re-raise (the range of hands is a lot tighter) then it is way below 220-1. Having said all that they are Kings! What i want to know is why on earth u flat call pre flop?!?! so the play would have been to go over the top again and go allin? thanks for the advice An all in from you now would be less than a potsized raise, if you are ever in that situation with a big hand then just push all in. Your oppo isnt passing |