Title: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Sark79 on September 04, 2006, 11:28:24 AM Will he ever return to boxing?
Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: matt674 on September 04, 2006, 11:31:17 AM not unless his fights are in the middle of the afternoon - while he's wearing the electronic tag he has strict cerfews to adhere to. failure to do so will see him getting back into his rolls royce and returning back to Her Majestys Pleasure.
Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: bolt pp on September 04, 2006, 11:44:17 AM He couldn't box anymore BEFORE he went to jail, he's gonna sit in his gaff and carry on where he left off, watching re runs of Barrera whoop him whilst eating steak and kidneys pies.
Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Sark79 on September 04, 2006, 11:46:47 AM He was making plans to return before he went away. Perhaps in 6 months he will be in a position to listen to offers .
Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: bolt pp on September 04, 2006, 11:52:05 AM If you listened to frank warren during that period you'd find that hameds "plans" were never taken seriously by anyone in the buisness, they consisted of nothing more than his brothers phoning up warren once every couple of months talking about a comeback and then asking for V.I.P seats at whatever fight was coming up.
Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Nem on September 04, 2006, 01:38:04 PM He could make a comeback at Super Middleweight or Light Heavy ;goodvevil;
Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: MrMoves on September 04, 2006, 01:47:36 PM He would win any pie eating contest IMO.
Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: booder on September 04, 2006, 01:50:20 PM He would win any pie eating contest IMO. almost any..........would struggle to beat colchesters finest Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: MrMoves on September 04, 2006, 01:54:40 PM He would win any pie eating contest IMO. almost any..........would struggle to beat colchesters finest I would pay serious money to watch that match-up. Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: yt on September 04, 2006, 04:12:20 PM I would pay serious money to watch Hamed.
I loved watching him fight in his prime. I have all his tapes recorded from ITV back in the day. One early fight the commentator was going on about how this would be a real test for "young" Hamed and that this fighter had never been knocked down in 40 odd fights. The bell goes, Hamed hits him once and he goes down. Just brillant. Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Sark79 on September 04, 2006, 04:14:32 PM He could make a comeback at Super Middleweight or Light Heavy ;goodvevil; lol Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Nem on September 04, 2006, 04:18:18 PM I would pay serious money to watch Hamed. I loved watching him fight in his prime. I have all his tapes recorded from ITV back in the day. One early fight the commentator was going on about how this would be a real test for "young" Hamed and that this fighter had never been knocked down in 40 odd fights. The bell goes, Hamed hits him once and he goes down. Just brillant. Yeah, he was a great boxer, an all time great. Shame about his attitude - he could have been the greatest (in his weightclass) Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: The Baron on September 04, 2006, 04:32:32 PM I would pay serious money to watch Hamed. I loved watching him fight in his prime. I have all his tapes recorded from ITV back in the day. One early fight the commentator was going on about how this would be a real test for "young" Hamed and that this fighter had never been knocked down in 40 odd fights. The bell goes, Hamed hits him once and he goes down. Just brillant. Yeah, he was a great boxer, an all time great. Shame about his attitude - he could have been the greatest (in his weightclass) I disagree. The first time he met a world class boxer (who wasn't past it like Boom Boomor Kelly) he got his ass handed to him. Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Nem on September 04, 2006, 04:35:24 PM I would pay serious money to watch Hamed. I loved watching him fight in his prime. I have all his tapes recorded from ITV back in the day. One early fight the commentator was going on about how this would be a real test for "young" Hamed and that this fighter had never been knocked down in 40 odd fights. The bell goes, Hamed hits him once and he goes down. Just brillant. Yeah, he was a great boxer, an all time great. Shame about his attitude - he could have been the greatest (in his weightclass) I disagree. The first time he met a world class boxer (who wasn't past it like Boom Boomor Kelly) he got his ass handed to him. He had the talent, its just his attitude let him down. Barrera didn't exactly destroy him. But he did beat him well on points. If Hamed had Lennox Lewis' attitude - he would have been the best. Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: The Baron on September 04, 2006, 04:52:16 PM I would pay serious money to watch Hamed. I loved watching him fight in his prime. I have all his tapes recorded from ITV back in the day. One early fight the commentator was going on about how this would be a real test for "young" Hamed and that this fighter had never been knocked down in 40 odd fights. The bell goes, Hamed hits him once and he goes down. Just brillant. Yeah, he was a great boxer, an all time great. Shame about his attitude - he could have been the greatest (in his weightclass) I disagree. The first time he met a world class boxer (who wasn't past it like Boom Boomor Kelly) he got his ass handed to him. He had the talent, its just his attitude let him down. Barrera didn't exactly destroy him. But he did beat him well on points. If Hamed had Lennox Lewis' attitude - he would have been the best. He just didnt have the chin you need at that weight. At heavyweight you can get away with it as Lennox did (except two small blips). Add to that the fact his boxing was still behind that of Barrera and Morales and he had no chance of dominating anything. Naz was a case of the media being domestically biased when there were better boxers out there from day 1. Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: bolt pp on September 04, 2006, 04:53:22 PM I think he got 'destroyed'. in effect he got retired.
Why didn't he take up the rematch clause oppoutunity, he never wanted any part of that guy again, even back in Sheffield where it would've been held Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Acidmouse on September 04, 2006, 04:59:00 PM His arse leaves next week i heard its that big now.
Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: The Baron on September 04, 2006, 04:59:14 PM I think he got 'destroyed'. in effect he got retired. Why didn't he take up the rematch clause oppoutunity, he never wanted any part of that guy again, even back in Sheffield where it would've been held Also how many people have beaten Barrera? Pacqiau, Morales, plus several others have gone close.... Naz? Pah! Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Nem on September 04, 2006, 05:02:02 PM He was going on saying"I'm the greatest, I'm this and I'm that" blah, blah, blah and he did get well beaten by Barrera. But, and this is a big but - if he had the right attitude, like Lennox, he would have beaten Barrera.
Just my opinion... Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Nem on September 04, 2006, 05:03:27 PM I think he got 'destroyed'. in effect he got retired. Why didn't he take up the rematch clause oppoutunity, he never wanted any part of that guy again, even back in Sheffield where it would've been held Also how many people have beaten Barrera? Pacqiau, Morales, plus several others have gone close.... Naz? Pah! The on thing you are forgetting, is that I am talking about 'Featherweight' fighters http://www.boxrec.com/ratings.php?nationality=&sex=M&division=Featherweight&status=E&SUBMIT=Go Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Sark79 on September 04, 2006, 05:04:16 PM He was excellent and I feel that if he could have got rid of his arrogance, he could have been one of the greats
Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: The Baron on September 04, 2006, 05:09:56 PM I think he got 'destroyed'. in effect he got retired. Why didn't he take up the rematch clause oppoutunity, he never wanted any part of that guy again, even back in Sheffield where it would've been held Also how many people have beaten Barrera? Pacqiau, Morales, plus several others have gone close.... Naz? Pah! The on thing you are forgetting, is that I am talking about 'Featherweight' fighters http://www.boxrec.com/ratings.php?nationality=&sex=M&division=Featherweight&status=E&SUBMIT=Go Nem we both know the true greats are measured over several divisions. And let's not forget Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Jones, Eubank, Hopkins etc etc etc who were cocky and were great. Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Nem on September 04, 2006, 05:12:15 PM Initially ;tk;
I said that he could have been one of the greats of his division. However, if he never had such a bad attitude - who knows what 'could have' happened... Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: AdamM on September 05, 2006, 08:31:43 PM I think Nem is bang on with this. Naseem was a great fighter, an absolute natural. he beat everyone with ease on his way to the top. unfortunately he found out there was a massive gulf at the very top. Barrerra was about at his best and Naseem got convincingly beaten. Perhaps Morales would have been a better fight for him. He still wasn't as good as Morales but the style wuold have maybe given him a better chance. We'll never know.
The true greats aren't those that go there whole careers unbeaten. the greatest fighters (literally and figuratively) are those that take loses and come back stronger. Naseem had got so used to being unbeatable that he didn't know how to handle the feeling. shows his character flaws more than his boxing flaws. He'll never fight again, and even if he did, he'd never do anything worthwhile. A shame. Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Karabiner on September 05, 2006, 08:48:06 PM I feel that the fact that he seemed to feel that he "knew it all" and therefore did not need to work on his technique was his ultimate downfall in as much as it was his lack of technique which was his undoing when he stepped up to fight the big boys like Barrera.
When I first saw him fight I thought he was the greatest prospect that I had ever seen. Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: bolt pp on September 05, 2006, 08:51:00 PM was barrera such a big boy then? hamed was 2/7 for that fight, i remember cos i was on barrera at 9/4 ::)
Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: AdamM on September 05, 2006, 08:58:10 PM that's crazy. Barrerra was a solid favourite for that fight. you must have got some very patriotic British bookies
Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Karabiner on September 05, 2006, 09:01:07 PM was barrera such a big boy then? hamed was 2/7 for that fight, i remember cos i was on barrera at 9/4 ::) He was certainly a "big boy" in terms of class of fighter that Hamed had been in the ring with imo. Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: bolt pp on September 05, 2006, 09:12:18 PM that's crazy. Barrerra was a solid favourite for that fight. you must have got some very patriotic British bookies I promise you those were the odds! TBH i'd never heard of Barrera but i hated hamed and had done my pieces in the bookies that day, there was still tax then and hamed was way too short, i had the last £500 that was in my account over the phone and got a little bit out of the wreckage. This was in the pre- betting shop roulette machine and online poker days so for a degenerate gambler like i was who couldn't make it to the stow that night but was still in the hot this was my only outlet to do the rest of my dough.!!!!!! :D Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: AdamM on September 05, 2006, 09:18:05 PM if you'd heard of Barrerra you'd still have lumped on at 9/4
Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: byronkincaid on September 05, 2006, 09:38:55 PM I heard a story ages ago and it could be BS or an urban myth or something, but this bloke reckoned he went to some charity event and they had 2 circles on the floor, you had to pay some money to stand on one of the circles and Nas stood on the other with his hands behind his back and you get one punch.
Apparently nobody managed to hit him all night. Anyone heard of this? Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Sark79 on September 05, 2006, 09:57:34 PM When he had a fight at the SECC in Glasgow, my friend had a ticket. He had been winding me up for ages because he was getting to go to the fight and I wasn't because I had to work that night.
The fight lasted about 2 punches and his seat was miles from the ring. He said all he could see was two little ants in the distance with thousands of peoples heads in the way :D. Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Colchester Kev on September 05, 2006, 10:00:51 PM Did you see him on the news leaving jail ? fleets of limos and other such expensive cars .... arrogant little shit.
The bloke that he crippled is still hobbling around on crutches. I have faith in Karma .... Oh yeah, If you are reading this Mr Hamed .... SUE ME !! Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: bolt pp on September 05, 2006, 10:04:50 PM Did you see him on the news leaving jail ? fleets of limos and other such expensive cars .... arrogant little shit. The bloke that he crippled is still hobbling around on crutches. I have faith in Karma .... Oh yeah, If you are reading this Mr Hamed .... SUE ME !! I say let him enjoy it whilst hes still got it!!!!!! That guys gonna take so much doe off him, too right as well i hope he skints him! Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: The Baron on September 06, 2006, 07:37:35 PM was barrera such a big boy then? hamed was 2/7 for that fight, i remember cos i was on barrera at 9/4 ::) As I said, British media hype about "our boy" when he was up against a much superior fighter. Those odds are outrageous. Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: Bazzaboy on September 06, 2006, 07:52:00 PM Once he made his millions he lost his desire and hunger, hence why he never made any attempt to come back from his defeat against Barrera. He was good box office due to his style but the majority of his wins were against glorified tomato cans fed to him by Frank Warren. As for how good he really was we will never know, We only have the fight v Barrera to go on as he never fought any other genuine world class opponents in their prime.
Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: BrumBilly on September 11, 2006, 03:26:19 AM I remember the odds were around the 2-1/9-4 mark as I was gonna get on myself. Hamed's mistake was believing his own hype and not working on defending himself. You can stick your chin out when fighting mugs and even against some of the best (depending on their style) but not against true world class. Watching the fight it was clear Barrera could have gone on all night with Naz in his pocket. Hamed just didn't have the style/scope to beat him and getting away from his roots (Ingle) in favour of his looney brothers was a big mistake (memories of Anelka).
The myth of the tiny man they used to say hurt middleweights in sparring was just waiting to be exposed. That said, he gave us some pretty emphatic displays in his time. His post-fight interviews often seemed longer than the fights and I found him pretty damned funny. Title: Re: Hamed leaves jail early Post by: bolt pp on September 17, 2006, 04:47:36 AM The commentator just said: "he shocked us all" the night he fought hamed
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